Careful what you wish for

Tuesday, November 08, 2005
Drudge is reporting that there will be an investigation of the recent leak about secret CIA sites. I LOVE this--Dana Milbank will be called to testify and will spend jail time unless he reveals his sources. Then, hopefully, we can ferret out the backbiting, traitorous moles in the CIA. Why do I think this is really leveraging the "Fitzgerald precedent"--the New York Times Editorial board strident support for a special prosecutor is coming back to bite the incestous MSM/upset bureaucrat relationship big time.

85 comments:

flenser said...

My power scares even me sometimes. It's rather like being a superhero - with great power comes great responsibility.





Congress Must Investigate The CIA

SuperFlenser

Knucklehead said...

Flenser,

I am not worthy! You influence congress. I am stuck influencing only Fox News (they did pieces about the cement shortage and pirates shortly after I mentioned them as things we don't hear much about).

You are a mover and shaker. I am merely stalked by desperate MSM types looking to appease the curious masses.

chuck said...

Misfortune strikes: it was Dana Priest, not Dana Milbank, who wrote the article. Next time, maybe.

terrye said...

super flenser:

Hey, I had the idea first. you sneak.

But in truth, this leaking is getting out of hand.

Knucklehead said...

Powerline has Three Years of the Condor. An interesting bit of reading, IMO.

markg8 said...

Hait to point out the fly in the ointment. Baghdad Trent Lott says he thinks a Republican senator who took part in that meeting with Cheney (no Dems allowed) last week spilled the beans.

Fellas if he was a leader of any other nation on the planet George Bush would be explaining why he doesn't deserve to be sitting in a cell in the Hague next to Milosevic.
Thanks Goegre for dragging my country's reputation thru the mud. You wonder we hate him.

Anonymous said...

It could have been a Senator or a staffer in the meeting, but I wouldn't jump to conclusions.(a) someone had the information and gave it to them, and(b) we'd need to see when the meeting was and when the article was written. Call me sceptical that that was the source.

c

Knucklehead said...

What are you talking about, Markg8?

Peter UK said...

Knuck,
It is our superannuated 49 year old troll, who registered for the draft in 1974 age 18,never been the same since.A shell of a troll,a repository of inchoate rage and bitterness,he believes he is speaking "Truth to Power" instead of "Shit to Strangers".

Rick Ballard said...

C,

Watch for a piece by Gertz, who has been sitting on the prison story for a very long time - until a congressional staffer handed it to Priest. Short list of probables:

Pelosi, Reid, Boxer - certainly each of them is dumb enough.

via Paul at JOM.

Someday the Kosssacks are going to understand that if the prison deal was briefed to a Republican only group, there just might be a possibility that it was briefed to a Democrat only group too. Priest is going to have to cough up the staffer's name and my bet is that his boss prays to the jackass and not the elephant.

Knucklehead said...

PeterUK,

All US males who became 18 in 1974 registered for the draft. There was no draft, just a registration. I know, I was there. The draft ended in '73, registration was continued until '75. All of us who have served since the draft ended did so voluntarily.

I have no clue what point markg8 is after with his draft registration. "Speaking shit to strangers" may, indeed, be it.

Rick - this is slightly OT but have you seen How about some French Cream on the Yellow Cake? You've been hinting around some potential for revelations about the erstwhile Ambassador Wilson.

markg8 said...

Well no Paul, not if Cheney brought them together to state his case why the CIA should be left out of McCain's torture bill. He's not going to get Dem support for gutting that bill and it shows the level of his desperation that he'd even reveal the existence of these US controlled gulags to the Repub senators who have oversight authority. Will Republican senators have the cojones to stand up to Bush and Cheney and try to reclaim America's honor and reputation by shutting down the secret camps? They have a choice and it's rapidly becoming time they make that choice.

BTW Lott says the details are just too close to what was said in the meeting.

terrye said...

Whoever leaked it the fact is the papers should not be reporting it.

As for Lott, he has had a hair up his ass since he lost his job.

But I have to admit, I will need more than mark's word for it.

This has been happening far too much lately.

Besides I fail to see how this helps Cheney in anyway.

terrye said...

America's honor Mark?

By doing what? having sex with interns in the Oval Office and selling secrets to the Chinese for campaign contributions?

Rick Ballard said...

Yeah, Knuck - I saw it. Remember the Carpenter's song "We've Only Just Begun" (yes, it was nauseating) but the moment Fitz put up his Ham Sandwich indictment coupled with the asinine press conference, the push back began. First the Niger forgery case was closed and now the Plame investigation is going to be shown to have been a fool's errand with a foolish result.

The Alterman Reality community has hung their hopes on this drivel for two years. The Kossacks are calling the tune at the moment and the whole Dem playbook is set up around the "corrupt Republican's" meme. It was stupid as an idea, it is being stupidly executed and it's going to have a negative result. I do believe that it's the best the Dems can do though. Given their intellectual limitations. All the smart ones are over here now or parked out in 'Independent Land' but looking back at the errors of their misspent youth with some regret.

markg8 said...

I simply stated I registered for the draft when I turned 18 in 1974. You'll make whatever you want out of that anyway so why should I bother to elaborate? I'm still waiting for your answer Peter. Are you of military age? If so why aren't you in Basra? If the most outspoken supporters of the policy aren't willing to put their lives on the line WHAT ARE THE REST OF US SUPPOSED TO THINK OF THEM?

markg8 said...

Hey I don't claim to make the news (like some folks here I won't name) I just reported what I saw on CNN while working a phonebank for Corzine this afternoon.

Call Trent Lott's office if you don't believe me.

Peter UK said...

It must have been hell sitting in that foxhole filling in your draft registration armed only with a ballpoint Mook.

terrye said...

mark:

Why don't you go strap a bomb to yourself and prove to us what a big bad resistance fighter you are?

After all if you are going to support resistance in others the least you can do is jump in there and join the fray yourslef.

Otherwise what are we to think? Other than the fact that you are a little hypocrite?

By the way, we have a volunteer military and if it is necessary for people who are prepared to send others in to battle to be warriors themselves I guess that means Hillary won't be getting the nomination now will she?

After all it is the job of the president to be commander in chief so unless the Senator from NY was in some all female special forces delta attack super duper secret agent killing squad the rest of us know nothing about I fail to see how she can do the job. Or Cindy Sheehan either or Micahel Moore...

flenser said...

markg8

Accoring to Dana Priest;

"Several former and current intelligence officials, as well as several other U.S. government officials with knowledge of the program.." etc.

That does not sound as if the information came from a Senator. Not that it makes any difference, whoever leaked it should go down. So should Priest, of course.

Surely you are not suggesting that a reporter for the WaPo might be lying?



C

That name seems familiar, somehow.

terrye said...

CNN???

Well hell, let's just call them and tell them an investigation is not necessary because CNN already has all the answers.

Peter UK said...

Terrye,
Even John Kerry had the guts and the decency to serve first before betraying the military of his nation.

terrye said...

Peter:

I remember that. I was very very young [really] but he really did get up there in front of the Senate and call his fellow soldiers rapists and murderers and there were men dying when he did it.

I have no idea how the Democrats thought he could win after that.

markg8 said...

Actually I'd prefer Edwards get the nomination terrye and for God's sake if you're going to sling insults at least try to come up with something original or interesting.

Peter UK said...

Dana Priest wearing the traditional garb of the liberal journalist

flenser said...

markg8

" working a phonebank for Corzine .. "

What is this love affair that you lefties have for multmillionaire businessmen? Don't you realize that you have sold out to The Man?

markg8 said...

"several other U.S. government officials with knowledge of the program" could very well be anybody including US senators.

The US Senate has oversight responsibility over the CIA. Will they use it or do the American people have another compelling reason to put Dems back in charge of Congress?

markg8 said...

I like Jon Corzine. He's been a fine US Senator. And he's a homey from Illinois.

chuck said...

Actually I'd prefer Edwards get the nomination

Geez, Mark. Silky Pony? I will never forget the video of Edwards spending almost forever getting his bangs just right. His hair alone disqualifies the man.

Peter UK said...

"Said one Hill source: “Talk about a leak that damaged national security! How will we ever get our allies to cooperate if they fear that their people will be targeted by al Qaeda.”

According to sources, the WASHINGTON POST story by Dana Priest (Wednesday November 2), revealed highly classified information that has already done significant damage to US efforts in the War on Terror. "

Which accounts for her uniform.

Syl said...

Damn, Mark's on to us. He knows the secret camps are for him.

Peter UK said...

Syl,
I didn't know there was one in Arizona.

flenser said...

syl

And the fool has already given us enough information to track him down. Let the reeducation commence!

Rick Ballard said...

"I didn't know there was one in Arizona."

It's really quite small. Aside from the potter's field, of course. It's what's known as a "short stay" facility.

Syl said...

I didn't know there was one in Arizona.

It's on wheels.

RogerA said...

Allthose Danas look alike--what can I say

terrye said...

mark:

Speaking of original, have a talk with Harry Reid. I had to mute him after whopper number 3. He just keeps making this stuff up. Never mind if he has no evidence, never mind if the investigations prove nothing...Bush is the antiChrist and Cheney is Lucifer and the Democrats are sticking to that.

Years of the same old mindless slurs about Halliburton and wmd and God knows what else.

I don't know why Bush does not tell them to go to hell, he would have every right.

I used to be a Democrat, now I just sit back and listen to them with disgust.

So don't lecture me on original when Harry Reid is a broken record.

As for the leak, I don't know who did it and neither do you, but if the left does not like the outcome of the investigation they will just call it a whitewash and make up their own story anyway. They always do.

After all we gotta keep the rich liberals writing the checks and they love the ranting and raving and finger pointing.

Syl said...

I've seen her a few times on BookTV. She is not one of those obnoxious types. She's sharp, quite liberal. But at the same time seems to understand our military a bit better than all those around her.

But breaking something like this :( The liberal journalist totally took over. Transparency trumps security.

Syl said...

Terrye

The Dems are committing suicide with all this anti Iraq stuff. The american people are tired of the war, tired of the griping, not sure now how we get there. But they know we can't cut and run.

And sincd we're WINNING it seems rather foolish of the Dems to so obviously disavow a winning cause.

terrye said...

syl:

I think the journalists are power tripping. The Democrats might like it right now because they are out of power, but the truth is these people can not be trusted. They are interested in getting a story. I do think they are biased but at the same time their first loyalty is to what they do and they think they have the right to print whatever they damn well please.

People like this can change from friend to foe in a hurry.

As for the Democrats, they are just getting more and more shrill. I know conservative pundits want the Bushies to fight back harder, but it is hard to fight a lie.

And that is what a lot of this is. Reid has nothing other than rhetoric to back up his claims and to make them again and again without proof makes his seem hysterical.

I know they think that through sheer repitition they can make their claims stick but after awhile who listens?

except for mark.

Peter UK said...

The burden of guilt will never trouble these servants of terror,it will never occur to them that many of the bombings are purely for the media.Every word of failure,defeat and self flagellation is a nail in someone elses coffin.
Each gibbering troll gives hope to the Zarqawis of this world.Bin Laden looked at the left and thought "Here is my Ally".
What fuels this so called insurgency is that if they keep killing eventually the left will through its power in the media,big money donors to Moveon.org eventually swing the American public and force the troops to be withdrawn.
There is no consideration for the massacre that will follow,that Iran will control Iraqi,"We were right,we were right".
Well Rosebud, this isn't Vietnam,this time,the enemy will be following you home,and it isn't the Right they hate,it is the Liberal left.

terrye said...

peter:

Yes, they are not famous for religious tolerance. They believe the penalty for homosexuality is death. They do not believe in freedom of the press or the first amendment. They do not believe in womens rights but they do most certainly believe in the death penalty.

They are the real right wingers, not the Republicans.

Peter UK said...

Terrye,
But they are equal opportunity haters,"But I was against the War!"..."So what headless one?"

terrye said...

peter:

They just think Cheney is making all that jihadi stuff up so that he and Bush can give Halliburton a defence contract.

Peter UK said...

Terye,
What the imbeciles do not realise is that there was more money to be made by striking a deal with Saddam Hussein.
Who was doing the overflights, who was policing the embargo?

For lifting those Saddam would have cut the French and the Russians out of the deal.
If Halliburton had wanted the contract Saddam would have given it them to get sanctions and inspections off his back.
With the US and Britain having the veto in the Security Council,that would have meant goodbye UN kickbacks, hello my new friends kickback.
What's to understand, Saddam was a bad guy,he was always going to give bribes.

ex-democrat said...

rick - i haven't figured out the play-by-play but am concerned at the impact enactment of the federal reporter's shield law might have on this issue.
what do you think?

markg8 said...

You guys are sure fun to read. It's good to get a refresher on the deranged right. Are you guys gonna be members of jammies media or whatever they're calling it these days? I really, really hope Roger gets his $900,000 VC seed money so you get lots of pub. I really want the American public to see you in all your glory. I haven't had so much fun since Gingrich used to hold his breakfast meetings.

Peter UK said...

Yes,I am interested how it affects the principle of equality under the law.

Peter UK said...

Mook,
Does it still hurt after all this time,getting thrown off Roger Simon's site?
Don't worry,you were only a figure of ridicule.

chuck said...

I haven't had so much fun since Gingrich used to hold his breakfast meetings.

I miss him too! He did great things for the Republicans.

markg8 said...

I had to get to work anyway helping Kerry carry NJ and PA. I really wish you guys all the pub in the world. Middle America needs to see what Bush's strongest supporters are like.

BTW we just took NJ and VA governorships. I'm sure that'll help you wingers sleep better tonight.

markg8 said...

*Sigh* I miss him too. It's used to be fun watching Clinton mop the floor with him. Newt's always been a class act, even back in the day when he led the student demonstration that took over the dean's office at Tulane because the administration banned nudy pics in the campus paper and smoking dope in the quad. He was such a serious boy even then.

Peter UK said...

!Middle America needs to see what Bush's strongest supporters are like."

This is middle America! They have seen the deranged left wing,the paid for creatures of Soros,kos's klones,the Deaniac, your wing...and hey! they reelected President Bush.
But keep as sweet as you are,it is working fine for the Republicans,"Don't change a hair for me,not if you care for me....

Rick Ballard said...

ex-dem,

Dana Priest's sorry butt is going to be tossed in the can fairly quickly. There really were national security issues involved in the disclosure of the existence of clandestine detention centers. I want to reread the Espionage Act because it might fit.

I really would like to see what form the proposed act might take. There are constitutional issues involved (from my limited understanding) that might have to be resolved by the Supremes. Finding such an act unconstitutional would warm the cockles of my heart (presuming I had one) for a very long time. Journos have never, ever, in the history of their trade been worthy of any more privilege than a taxi driver. In the main, on the basis of honesty, the taxi driver probably has a better earned reputation.

ex-democrat said...

rick - as you know, i don't necessarily disagree, but many states already have laws that shield journalists from divulging sources (see here, for California's and link back for others) and a federal version is making its way through the process.

ex-democrat said...

forgot link: http://www.rcfp.org/cgi-local/privilege/contents.cgi?st=CA&t=frame

topsecretk9 said...

This National Review story only has a tangent relation...but it appears to be yet another moment of credibility crisis for the WAPO...

Freerepublic appears ready to go public with a members information because a WAPO reporter and Dem operative ( the member in question) may have colluded (well a little more than may) to bait and exploit a MD Gov. Staffer (who resigned)

When asked about the discrepancy, O’Doherty had no comment.

Collins reported in response to Free Republic's disclosure, Josh White, the executive director of the state Democratic Party, said how could anyone take the word of a right-wing Website that wants nothing more than to help the governor.
Sounds like a non-denial denial to me.

It shouldn’t surprise you to learn that the Washington Post has shown very little interest in chasing down this aspect of the story. Operating from a defensive position, the Post’s public statement reads:

"...The Washington Post had no involvement in any way in the chat room postings between former Ehrlich aide Joe Steffen and MD4Bush on the freerepublic.com website. The Post did not know about them until after they had already occurred, as we have reported in the newspaper.
The Post is denying that it colluded with MD4Bush in tricking Steffen into discussing the rumors. My response to that is there’s a difference between active collusion and passive collusion. While we have no reason to think the Post actively colluded with MD4Bush, i.e. engaged Steffen in the chat rooms, sent the leading e-mails, etc — we know that the Post passively colluded with MD4Bush. Mosk knew MD4Bush was some kind of an operative with an axe to grind. He saw the leading questions. He knew it was a set-up. He didn’t stop and say, “Hey, wait a minute. An operative trying to orchestrate a political fall for the governor — maybe this is the story.” Instead, he concealed that information from his readers and presented the story as an open-and-shut case of Republican dirty tricks.

Under pressure to tell the public what it knows about MD4Bush, the Post included the following in its statement:

As we have also reported in the newspaper, we do not know the identity of MD4Bush. We have tried to find out who MD4Bush is, but we have not been successful.
That reminds me of yesterday when I tried to find the remote control. It helps if you get up off the couch..."

topsecretk9 said...

Rick
I didn't format my novel length post very well (I know you are a stickler) but the article was interesting to me on 2 fronts...

1. It gave me a sneaky feeling about Paul's knowledgeable and reasonable comment (good sneaky feeling)

2. It certainly can't help a paper facing an investigation on issues of national security to coincidentally be outed as an active Dem operative

Rick Ballard said...

TS9,

Hardly a stickler. The WaPo story is interesting but personally, I don't need anymore confirmation that it is a propaganda organ for the DNC. It's always helpful to have one more nail to use in convincing others though.

The wheels are coming off the Dem wagon so fast that they'll be swearing it's a sled by next week. I'm leery of assuming that anyone has real "inside" knowledge from what I read in comments. Mac's knowledge has been borne out by events to the extent that I trust what he says but Paul's comment today, while correct (IMO) in conclusion may well prove to have salient details that are incorrect.

I have no "inside" sources and I'm not sure that I would ever feel comfortable using them if I did. You do a great job of gathering information - in fact, so much information that it's difficult to fit all the pieces together.

The next bit is going to be very interesting because I believe that this detention center story is really going to wreak havoc with the press.

terrye said...

mark:

You did not take the governorships, you held onto them.

A take=a gain.

But then again there is the attorney general office and Lt. Governor.

If the Democrats were smart they would nominate a guy like Warner. As I said I was a Democrat for years and I left the party when the moonbat division began picking nominees. You guys ought to leave that stuff to the sane people.

BTW, if a Republican was involved my money is on McCain. But let's do something novel for Democrats, let's wait for real evidence.

markg8 said...

terrye define "took" however you want. Forrestor put as much or more of his personal fortune into the race as Corzine and got trounced even though he tried to claim he was a liberal.

VA is a red state where Bush campaigned for Kilgore Monday night sealing his defeat.

All of Arnold's ballot initiatives flopped.

All 8 of the Christian religious jihadis on the Dover PA schoolboard who have done so much to embarrass themselves and the entire state by trying to inject their faith into the highschool science curriculum were swept out of office.

Who leaked the black sites? I have no clue, I wasn't there anymore than anybody here was in the room with Joe Wilson when he talked to ex Nigerien officials. But regardless, the crime - if there is one - is with the leaker not the reporter.

Obviously Frist and Hastert really don't want to go after a Republican senator and they sure as hell don't want to draw more attention to Cheney's secret senate "it's not torture because we say it isn't" lobbying tour.

As Mark Kleiman says: "Isn't it extraordinary how it's the people who reject moral relativism and insist on the black-and-white difference between good and evil who argue for making exceptions when it comes to torture?"

If Cheney has a case to make about defeating McCain's bill why do it in private, only taking his case to Repubs, shooing senate staffers out of the room and trying to keep his backroom manipulations hush hush? Why hasn't he gone public so he can let the American people pressure their legislators and get the whole rightwing echo chamber on board to beat the drum for him? Ya know like it's usually done in a democracy.

markg8 said...

You'll have to look elsewhere. McCain on CNN yesterday morning:

S. O'BRIEN: There was a report last week in the "Washington Post" that talked about these secret prisons in Europe.

MCCAIN: Yes.

S. O'BRIEN: Are you aware of these prisons?

MCCAIN: No.

S. O'BRIEN: Not at all?

MCCAIN: I did not know anything about it.

S. O'BRIEN: Which means what, then? I mean if other senators -- are you going to start hearings on this? Obviously you would like to be aware, yes?

MCCAIN: Well, I think the Intelligence Committee chairman and ranking member were told -- at least that's the media reports that I have -- but I think the American people ought to know if we're doing that kind of thing.

Peter UK said...

"MCCAIN: Well, I think the Intelligence Committee chairman and ranking member were told -- at least that's the media reports that I have -- but I think the American people ought to know if we're doing that kind of thing."

So he isn't bothered about the leaks then?

markg8 said...

Peter it makes the case for his bill even stronger. Judging by his appearance on the Daily Show last night he's positively giddy about the leak.

Peter UK said...

McCain,seems to be "positively giddy" about the substance of the leak not the leak itself.
Since his bill is a proposal which has not been passed into law, perhaps he should concern himself with laws which exist which have ben broken.Otherwise it might look he is merely jumping on the band wagon.

markg8 said...

I would say John McCain has been on the anti torture bandwagon since about a minute after he was shot down over North Vietnam in 1967. Fascinating stuff, his Wikpedia bio. You guys may be in luck, it says he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, just like my mother. Mom says she could never be president because she was born out of the country. Seems like the Panama Canal Zone qualifies. LOL if that excuse is good enough to keep my mother off the ballot all these years it's good enough for McCain.

markg8 said...

Um maybe someone ought to check and see if Cheney broke any laws divulging
the secret gulags to the Senators or the WaPo. Or maybe somebody who used to be close to Cheney who's feeling a little left out, hung out to dry, someone who found out too late who the fall guy is. I won't name any names.

topsecretk9 said...

Rick--

Yes you are right about taking an idle comment as some special clue. Really I wasn't insinuating that I truly thought that (only in the sense that it would very fun if it were). I guess I should be careful, my choice of words didn't show I was being playful.

Anonymous said...

Um maybe someone ought to check and see if Cheney broke any laws divulging
the secret gulags to the Senators or the WaPo


1. The part about the WAPO...that is what the investigation is about

2. Um...lets see...senators, including DEMOCRATS, have security clearances of various high levels so they can receive briefings or review documents covering sensitive matters...

It is Democrats, having the same clearances and seeing the same things as Republicans, that have led you to believe there is some mystery and criminal element here. Which is creepy because what will they do when a Democrat is president?

Peter UK said...

anonymous,
Cheney is the only name he knows,the left has its pantheon of demons which frames its terms of reference.
The leak was either for political advantage or misguided principle.So who fits the profile? Certainly not Cheney.

markg8 said...

LOL yeah Cheney has neither the advantage or principles.

And anonymous yes some senators of both parties like those on the Intel Committee have pretty high security clearances. But there were no Democrats in that meeting and even though the Senate is charged with CIA oversight this is the first anyone heard about these black site gulags. Or are we going to be hearing from Bob Novak in a week their existence was common knowledge all over DC?

Peter UK said...

Mark Garrity,
Glad you agree,that lets Cheney off the hook.You will have to invent someone else.
Of coures it needn't be anyone on the committee,might be another CIA smear,or even onother cockup.

markg8 said...

I agree that Cheney doesn't have the advantage or principles Peter. I can hear him now, "Jesus Christ Denny you guys gotta clear this stuff with us first. Yer killin me! The last thing I need is the media stretching this thing out for the rest of the week. Now we have Pelosi and Reid calling for an investigation into everything, all of it! Don't you ever think anything trough?

Peter UK said...

So who? Who had the information,not just at the meeting,but was in the position and had the motive to leak?

markg8 said...

Got me. But it speaks to the fracturing of the Republican party doesn't it?

I can hear Hastert's reply: "Well dammit Dick I'm not the one who secretly bought out Russia's controlling interest in those gulags and turned 'em into USA owned and operated torture centers! You guys sandbagged us and left us hangin!
Bill and I had to do something and where the hell is Karl anyway? This dirty work is his job, not mine. The next time you decide to trash the Geneva Conventions get him to get you out of it because I'm not gonna answer the phone Dick!

Peter UK said...

Got to be a Democrat supporter,they are the only ones to gain,certainly have the scruples for it.
BTW,I thought you knew who was at the meeting.

Peter UK said...

The Geneva Convention only applies to co-signatories.

markg8 said...

Peter you gotta get out more often. There are number of Republican senators who have consciences and common sense. The vote for McCain's bill in the Senate was 91-9. Not everybody in the Repub party is an idiot who thinks they're above the law.

Peter UK said...

So that makes them a better party than the Democrats.

Say, did you know Ted Kennedy's father was a boot legger during prohibition? Must really have known some colourful people,many of them friends,enough to get John F elected,only in American

markg8 said...
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markg8 said...

Oops my bad. Sorry about the repost.
Hmmm...Pat Roberts said he wants Frist and Hastert to back off until the Justice Dept finishes their probe. The CIA is doing a damage assessment and asked Justice to look into the leak. When asked how long that would take Roberts chirped "decades". He doesn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole.

In a leak related note there's this from the same WaPo article:

"Hoekstra said some Republican lawmakers were livid when a top administration intelligence officer inadvertently released the annual budget for U.S. intelligence operations, a figure that is classified and closely held by lawmakers who draft the budget.

At an intelligence conference last week in San Antonio, Mary Margaret Graham, deputy director of national intelligence, said the annual intelligence budget is $44 billion, a slip witnessed and recounted by a U.S. News & World Report writer.

Keeping the figure secret was a contentious issue as Congress retooled the intelligence structure after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, said Hoekstra, who battled to maintain the budget figure's classification.

Some lawmakers want to see disciplinary action against Graham. Hoekstra said he personally raised concerns with Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte."

What's with all the secrecy anyway? Why shouldn't we know what we spend on intel services? The Bush admin has vastly increased classified information. Even locked up presidential records as far as Reagan's I guess in an attempt to hide those embarrasing facts about their complicity in the Iraq/Iran war and support for Saddam among other things. But when you routinely classify so much information it stands to reason some people are gonna get tripped up along the way.

markg8 said...

Two can play that game Peter. Did you know George W. Bush's grandfather was a money launderer for Hitler as late as September 1942? As a matter of fact if it wasn't for ol' Prescott Bush in the 20s and 30s the Nazi Party in Germany might never have had the finances to come to power.

Peter UK said...

Hitler's money launderer,Ha Ha Ha ha ha,you are beyond parody Mook.
It was in fact Ambassador Joe Kennedy who was an admirer of Hitler.

How are the underwater driving lessons going?

markg8 said...

Google Prescott Bush and Hitler Petey.
If you look hard enough you can find the old newspaper clippings from when the FBI shut down his operation in the fall of 1942.

markg8 said...

I don't think Old Joe was an admirer of Hitler Petey but as Ambassador to the Court of St. James he didn't believe the Brits could repulse a Nazi invasion. Despite your country's valiant and brilliant air defense in the Battle of Britain if Hitler hadn't turned his attention from destroying the RAF and then to the USSR the UK probably wouldn't have in the spring of 1941 after leaving so much of it's equipment on the beaches of Dunkirk. But I imagine the Brits would have made the occupation a friggin nightmare for the Germans.