Who Provides the Greater Terrorist Threat: Dubai or Great Britain?

Wednesday, March 01, 2006
There are a number of people who believe that British citizens present a lesser terrorist threat than those of Dubai. But is this true? I don’t think so. Great Britain is essentially dominated by the forces of the politically correct. Many terrorists live within its borders. How many terrorist acts took place in Great Britain? How many in Dubai? Are the British going to prohibit all Muslims from being employed in the port districts of the United States? Will there be an official statement declaring: No Muslims Need Apply? Of course not. I strongly contend that the Dubai government will be be far more restrictive. It has too much to lose and fears terrorism perhaps more than we do. The odds of an Islamic nihilist infiltrating their operations may even be a statistical improbability. No, we have more to worry about from our British cousins and Old European allies.

13 comments:

terrye said...

David:

Brits have their share of Islamists, no doubt about it...but then again so do a lot of other countries.

France, the Netherlands, India, Canada...

truepeers said...

Back in the day, when I was hanging out in the politically correct university with its official role of victims to our discriminatory, racist, history, i attended a Canadian history seminar and pointed out that in the early days of the last century it was a common thing to see in western Canada employment notices that read "No Englishman need apply". (The Scots-Irish-Canadian employers had seen too many lazy or stupid sons of declining English aristocratic families who had sent their problems away to the colonies.) But the people in the PC seminar didn't believe me. It didn't fit their logic trap.

terrye said...

truepeers:

I have talked to people who said they could remember NINA signs from a long ago.

No Irish need apply.

Skookumchuk said...

truepeers:

Priceless.

Knucklehead said...

This is sorta OT but I think it goes to your overall point, DT. And even if it doesn't... sometimes I find it vaguely useful to actually stop and look at the things I have some fuzzy idea that I actually know. For example, OPEC.

Eleven countries: Algeria, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and Venezuela.

EIA estimates that the current eleven OPEC members account for about 40% of world oil production, and about 2/3 of the world's proven oil reserves.

Of the eleven, which could have been considered reasonably "friendly" (in an international relations and cooperation sorta way) to the US in, oh, say late 2000? I don't know how to check this but I'm thinkin: Indonesia, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia pretty much covers the list.

Today, a little more than five years later? Can we add Algeria to the list? Possibly. What about Libya? Probably. UAE certainly. Qatar? I think so. Iraq? Yeah.

We've gone from about 3/11 to maybe as high as 8/11. Failed policies and blood for oil, I suppose.

Rick Ballard said...

DT,

I would add the US to your list. Allowing radical imams to proselytize within the US prison system has provided the opportunity to recruit the truly small number of people with the requisite character and moral defects necessary to be truly damaging.

Consider Chief Moose's "it can't pe a black man" policy wrt to the DC sniper and replay it a hundred times.

Eric Blair said...

Naah, Rick.

'Black' Muslims in the US are a fashion statement, and not much else. Lots of noise.

Rick Ballard said...

Eric,

Skim through the Jamaat ul-Fuqra series that the Baron put together and let me know what you think. Farrakhan the phony doesn't bother me - he's not bright enough to light a match - but there are others involved.

truepeers said...

Terrye, there was of course prejudice against poor Irish in Canada too. But most of the Irish who came to Canada were protestants and they in fact became something of a ruling class in many parts of Canada by the late nineteenth century. It was said that the Loyal Orange Lodge (the protestant Loyalist association from Northern Ireland) controlled jobs in many workplaces. Not surprisingly, a lot of non-Irish protestants joined the Canadian Orangemen and thus became Orangemen which was often equated with being Canadian up to the 1920s. That's one reason many Canadians never identified as particularly English (except perhaps for those in the universities!)

truepeers said...

Michelle Malkin:

"Yes, there are countless homegrown terrorists across England, where Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., the maritime company purchased by state-owned Dubai Ports World, operates. So what? So, now, a peaceful Western democracy that is infiltrated against its will by al Qaeda is on the same plane as an Arab federation whose ruling emiratis ran interference for Osama bin Laden before Sept. 11, which continued to be a logistical hub for al Qaeda for years after, which refuses to recognize the existence of Israel, bans our textbooks as "racist" because they point out Syria's state sponsorship of terrorism, and is boycotting Denmark over the Mohammed Cartoons?"

-maybe it's not really about security, but about our right to punish sinners vs. those who claim it is not pragmatic to pretend we can live without the sinners who must be allowed money and power like the rest of us angels.

terrye said...

truepeers:

I think it is about Michelle not knowing when to give it up.

The UAE has been considered an ally of the US since the 70's. Needless to say they have had some bad players over the years but as time has passed they have become closer to the US... not more hostile.

I am not sure that we can even expect the Iraqis and Afghanis to recognize Israel as far as that is concerned.

This is this is a business deal and the time to exclude them has long since passed. We say we want the Arabs to join the world. We want them to do something with their money other than fund terrorists. Since 9/11 the UAE has done everything the US has asked it to. We can not reasonably expect more than that.

This is not about being best friends but considering the countries that have access to air and freight cargo in this country to deny the UAE this contract just because they are Arabs sends a message that we expect them to agree with us on everything [including Israel] just to do business. We don't ask that of anyone else.

truepeers said...

that's right; whether or not thery are truly "moderate muslims" i don't see how we can involve ourselves in the ME, seeking allies, without believing in the myth of a moderate muslim

Seneca the Younger said...

Um, actually, David, I can remember lots of terrorist acts in the UK or Britain. There was one up the street from me when I last visited Oxford.

I don't actually remember any in Dubai. What people talk about seems to be terrorists who changed planes, or changed money.