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Sunday, April 23, 2006
Back from the dead--trying to transform a lot of federal dollars into pandemic flu planning and coordination, working on three grants, and most recently an automobile accident have kept me off the board---But WOW, when I can come back: the McCarthy Case. Too many dots, so little time. A couple of random thoughts: (1) the effectiveness of the blogosphere in uncovering facts versus the MSM and "its layers of editors and factcheckers...." Gee, it's almost like the MSM is on an "investigate and avoid" mission here; either that, or they are totally incompetent. (2) The CIA prison story as a sting operation. I doubt that was the primary purpose of the story but it may have been an unintended consequence; I think anyone with two grey cells could look at the list of people in the CIA upper levels and see with whom they associated and narrow the search field pretty easily to discover moles. Rather, I think the secret prisons thing might have been a deception/disinformation exercise. Somewhere I read (sorry, no link) that the Guantanamo operation does strike a certain degree of fear in terrorists. If they can be made to believe that there are even more such prisons, but invisible, it could be a potential deterrent. In this scenario, the operation is damaged if the European Union investigates and finds no such operation. (Although, a prudent terrorist must assume the story is true.) Even better than a sting, using the WaPo to disseminate a deception plan and get a Pulitzer for it is heart-warming.

I LOVE conspiracy theories even though I dont give people enough credit to carry them out--this McCarthy story will keep the blogosphere going for years, I think.


brylun said...

Roger, Welcome back! Good to hear about the grant work but bad to hear about the auto mishap.

I can't wait for the NSA shoe to drop.

terrye said...


Hi there.

Yes, this is quite a case isn't it? I think the thing that has surprised me the most is the willingness of some Democrats to come to Miss Mary's defence.

In fact Jane Harman, who I have alway respected, compared the leaks to Bush's declassifying information for release to the press. Well there is one big difference, Bush has the legal right to do just that.


Rick Ballard said...

Welcome back, Roger. I have reservations about this being a sting - and very deep reservations about it being a sting orchestrated from the WH. I didn't hire Bush to conduct vendettas - that's Bubba and Miz Clinton's speacialty.

If there were a sting I would hope that it was conducted by the CIA's internal Counterintelligence department without any political nudging. Same for the NSA disclosure. The President made his displeasure known publicly on that matter and if Gonzales hasn't the backbone to follow it through then he hasn't the backbone to be in the office he holds - nor should he aspire to any other position of trust.

I hope [hint, hint, hint] that Flare's legal department will produce some analysis of the statutes involved with this and lay out the necessary predicates required for prosecution. Fitz's Farce failed in that from the beginning to the discredit of Comey and every other DoJ official involved.

A clear explanation of what will be necessary for the prosecutor to proceed, bearing in mind that indictment should not be made unless the prosecutor believes that there is a high likelihood of conviction, would be helpful. I believe Vnjagvet did a bit of prosecutorial work and Brylun has made a very decent argument concerning 793(d) for MCCarthy and 793(e) for Priest but I'm still wondering if there aren't other applicable statutes that I don't have the background to dig up.

Berger pled to something but I haven't discovered the actual statute, Deutsch pled to something too. I believe that the Franklin/AIPAC case now before Judge Ellis may also have some bearing. It certainly will regarding the NSA disclosure.

chuck said...

Gee, it's almost like the MSM is on an "investigate and avoid" mission here; either that, or they are totally incompetent.

Why can't they be both? The evidence for incompetence is overwhelming -- note Terrye's post on the NT Time's corrections noted at Powerline. The good new is that maybe they will prove equally incompetent in avoidance.

A lot of these folks strike me as naughty little boys caught with their hand in the cookie jar. They *know* they've been scamming the public all these years, so they make lame excuses and go into stealth mode. Note Hugh Hewitt's interviews with Stein, Hiltzik, and Lovelady where the interviewees dodge and waffle like professionals. Is that lame or whot? Then there is the Der Spiegel interview with Rem Koolhaas that I quoted below. 'Ol Rem is sounding the same notes: the question is trivial and irrelevant, etc., etc.

RogerA said...

Rick--I agree with your no sting argument; It could have been an offensive disinformation campaign designed to exploit terrorist concerns--if so it was a good one in that you get a benefit even if it were discovered. No good deception planner would try to segue outcomes from a deception operation.

Terrye: right as always re the president "leaking." It was in all the papers (June-July 03 as I recall) when he publically declassified portions of the Natl Intel Estimate--the legacy media hasnt, to my knowledge, broken a new story in quite a while--they just keep recycling old stories.

flenser said...

Another argument against it being a sting - it appears as if McCarthy will not be prosecuted for her actions. I don't think it would make any sense to set up such an elaborate sting and then not prosecute those you catch.

Syl said...

I don't think it was a sting. It's possible that the sting possibility was thrown out there to the EU to make THEM think it was a sting to take pressure off the countries supposedly involved.

It's not just our enemies we have to think about when classified info is released. The revelation of these 'secret prisons' hurt our allies in eastern europe. One of whom is in the EU and one who wishes to be so.

Also, foreign intelligence agencies are much less likely to freely share info with America if we can't keep secrets. They don't want THEIR secrets revealed either. In fact this is an ongoing problem we've had for a long time.

Syl said...

I think it a bit ironic that all these internationalist types don't see the problem with a leaky America. Unilateral leaking is fine with them since we are the center of the universe and our domestic needs for openess trump everyone else.

Kinda makes you wonder.

flenser said...


I didn't hire Bush to conduct vendettas -

I did hire Bush to protect national security. One aspect of that is to eliminate people who leak state secrets. The leakers cannot be given a free out simply because they are Bush haters rather then agents of a foreign power. Their motivation ought to be irrelevant.

So far I'm underwhelmed with the administrations response to all the leaks. And that buck stops at Bush's desk, not that of Goss or the AG.

If they are ignoring this stuff on their own, then Bush needs to light a fire under them.

MeaninglessHotAir said...


I've been missing you. I wondered what had happened. I really hope the auto accident wasn't too severe.

MeaninglessHotAir said...


I agree wholeheartedly. Every time a traitor—or one who out of self-stated pureness of heart commits treason—gets away with it, it weakens the fabric of the nation's abilities to deal with its enemies.

terrye said...

Yes, but do we know they got away with it? Or even exactly what is was they were supposed to get away with.

I agree that the guilty parties should be brought to account, but thanks to our legal system...that is not always easy to do.

One thing is for sure, these people will not be much use to any journalists in the future, not for telling secrets anyway.

And of course we are already seeing the lionization of this woman in the press and among certain Democrats. Brave St. Mary out there doing her best. Yes, I would imagine it is a little more complicated than finding a big tree and stringing her up.

But it is a thought. Or perhaps a rock pile in some nice military prision somewhere.