tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post114242120194369737..comments2024-03-26T16:03:42.608-06:00Comments on Flares into Darkness: Is BDS catching?ambisinistralhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03836786826294202405noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142505755463862622006-03-16T03:42:00.000-07:002006-03-16T03:42:00.000-07:00Pastorius:Thanks and I left a link at your place. ...Pastorius:<BR/><BR/>Thanks and I left a link at your place. Nice place.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142462034732174012006-03-15T15:33:00.000-07:002006-03-15T15:33:00.000-07:00Terrye,I vamped on your idea a bit, here:http://cu...Terrye,<BR/>I vamped on your idea a bit, here:<BR/><BR/>http://cuanas.blogspot.com/2006/03/its-all-his-fault-sacrificing-george.htmlPastoriushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169561459129778670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142455109050034952006-03-15T13:38:00.000-07:002006-03-15T13:38:00.000-07:00"Can the role of American President remain for lon...<I>"Can the role of American President remain for long what it presently is?"</I><BR/><BR/>It's present incarnation dates back to the '30's as an artifact of the three major "leaders for life" who all drew water from the same poisoned progressive well. Prior to Rossevelt's entirely unjustified elevation to the godhead the President was not regarded as Mr. Fixit. Some Presidents pushed particular agendas, to be sure, but none assumed the mantle of divinity as did Roosevelt.<BR/><BR/>As the MSM dies the illusion of the President as the ultimate font of resolution may die with it. I have no idea as to what the next evolutionary step would be wrt defining the Presidency but hopefully it will not involve further deification.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142451956300779962006-03-15T12:45:00.000-07:002006-03-15T12:45:00.000-07:00No doubt what puts the D in BDS is the cumulative ...No doubt what puts the D in BDS is the cumulative total of everything people are talking about. The sin eater idea is very good, but perhaps there is one thing yet missing. His name. Not only do I remember the odd fascination with the idea of a President "Bush" when George Sr. was first running for pres. But after years of joking about and bashing Bush Sr., Bush fun becomes second nature.<BR/><BR/>And everyone knows that when you talk to God, the ideal mediator is a bush, preferably burning :)<BR/><BR/>But seriously, it is worth remembering that, historically, humanity models itself on the Gods, not vice versa, and there still remains something of that in us. We find ourselves first in relation to a center with its transcendent, later fallen, figures. We chop down gods in our resentful desire to take their place. That is why history encourages decentralization, making everyone a center in her own right. Can the role of American President remain for long what it presently is? Or does it just now attract too much delusional resentment to serve us in any useful way?truepeershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401984575637492845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142448587960334742006-03-15T11:49:00.000-07:002006-03-15T11:49:00.000-07:00chuck:Yes, it is a pretty thought. I remember that...chuck:<BR/><BR/>Yes, it is a pretty thought. <BR/><BR/>I remember that Ronald Reagan retreated from the jihadis in Lebanon, Clinton ignored the USS Cole...but somehow Bush is attacked by his own for allowing Dubai to take over some freight terminals.<BR/><BR/> Clinton was president when 87 Americans died in that compound in Waco Texas..but Bush is suspected of sending Americans off to war to die for oil. Imagine the reaction today if Bush and Gonzales allowed something like that to happen.<BR/><BR/>Once upon a time we realized that presidents were people and were themselves subject to circumstances.<BR/><BR/>Now all of a sudden the man in the Oval Office is supposed to deal with and react to everything from bad weather to cartoon riots to private business transaction in such away that will make everyone everywhere happy all the time. Not gonna happen.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142445279597255662006-03-15T10:54:00.000-07:002006-03-15T10:54:00.000-07:00Barry,That comment is well worth expansion into a ...Barry,<BR/><BR/>That comment is well worth expansion into a post of its own. Americans lived in the shadow of 'MAD' for fifty years and coped, in large part, because the other side had 'rational' people at the top. Mullahs emanting green auras don't match up well with 'rational'. Nuts with nukes tends to raise the level of unease, if not fear, to the point where people do revert to "Daddy, make the boogeyman go away." <BR/><BR/>When the boogeyman doesn't disappear, Daddy pays a price. There is also a component of "reality as entertainment", as you note, movie wars last 120 minutes and end with a nice winner/loser determination. This war won't end in that manner - not even if we do the right thing and put Iran's mullahs in the ground.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142444374800003862006-03-15T10:39:00.000-07:002006-03-15T10:39:00.000-07:00Great post Terrye!I was struck by your comment tha...Great post Terrye!<BR/><BR/>I was struck by your comment that Bush wasn't the deity. The Pharoahs, the Inca, the Aztec kings, *were* deities. The divine right of kings was a belief of Louis XIV. Charles I was also a believer and passed his beliefs on to his offspring. Wasn't the Czar God's chosen? Weren't Lenin, Stalin, and Mao deities, their fancy mausoleums a reminder of the pyramids? There is something in human nature that yearns for a leader with the attributes of a God. Perhaps, as you postulate, it is a way of coping with a dangerous world. There is something soothing in the conviction that someone has the power to make it all better, that there is a big daddy. It is a pretty thought, no?chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15164145672293455823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142443775976106242006-03-15T10:29:00.000-07:002006-03-15T10:29:00.000-07:00Rick,Yeah, my post wasn't being clear on that poin...Rick,<BR/><BR/>Yeah, my post wasn't being clear on that point. I wasn't thinking of MSM (and political persuasions) but of the structure of media (as in the deeper penetration of cable/satellite, the greater emphasis on niche programming, deeper penetration of high speed internet and the internet itself, like blogs and such, the ipod and like devices, digital photography and digital video, DVDs, faster computers, satellite radio, etc.). I agree with you about the inclincations of MSM, but now there exists more tools to "check out their story" and to say something back to them as well as for those who think the MSM are not liberal enough to also lash out.<BR/><BR/>Although something like the recent al Qaeda warning hasn't drawn much MSM coverage, I think most people have a sense of how dangerous and unpredictable a time we live in. I think a lot of people don't let themselves think actively about it, but the anxieties will be there nonetheless IMHO. Because al Qaeda is so "elusive" and a nuclear bomb could go off at any time, this is bound to engender some degree of paranoia. Paranoia will always seek a target, because uncertainty can feel so intolerable for many people. Because so many people can't "grasp" al Qaeda (i.e., they aren't a nation state, they hide, they move, they use our openness against us, etc.), the "target" may become the most visible person charged with responsibility for protecting us from them, i.e., the President.<BR/><BR/>Although this is a very imperfect analogy, many times scared children don't lash out at the genuine source of the fear (often because they aren't able to nor powerful enough too), they might lash out instaed at their parents or others in authority as a substitute. It's not rational, but it is understandable. It becomes an indirect way for the scared child to say "you're supposed to protect me; I blame you for not being more powerful."<BR/><BR/>We overthrew Saddam in three weeks, but the war has lasted longer than the fantasies of many would suggest that it "should". I think many people are disillusioned that we aren't as powerful as they dreamt we should be. Katrina happens, and we weren't as powerful as we "should" be, etc. I think that many people will try to protect themselves from feeling powerless (or less powerful than desired) by targeting the quote-unquote most powerful person in the world.Barry Dauphinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15808109325931309525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142440605109077012006-03-15T09:36:00.000-07:002006-03-15T09:36:00.000-07:00"The nature of media has changed substantially sin...<I>"The nature of media has changed substantially since 2000."</I><BR/><BR/>If by nature you mean inclination I don't believe that it has. If you mean its composition, certainly the internet ha forced some changes upon it. Bush issued a declaration of war on the press right from the beginning - making "Clymer" an epithet. Adam Clymer was the premier political reporter for the MSM. sitting on top of the steaming pile at the NYT. Bush hasn't backed down from the fight and won't.<BR/><BR/>The MSM promised Kerry 15 points and delivered 5-6 (based the Princeton econometricians model). The MSM knows that low approval ratings for the President have historically meant bad midterm results for his party. That's CW of an illusory nature, as we will see in November. (The Reps may lose a few seats but not the majority.) <BR/><BR/>The MSM is scared and the Dems are scared. Both are headed for oblivion, both know it, and there is absolutely nothing that they can do to avoid it. <BR/><BR/>The whinging on the right - at least from the pundits - isn't particularly puzzling. GHWB wasn't conservative enough for many and RR wasn't conservative enough for some. The farther out you get to either edge of the spectrum the less sense you find. <BR/><BR/>The correct polling numbers at the moment are 45-55, a relatively high negative but not an insurmountable obstacle.<BR/><BR/>Terrye - great post. I remember your original 'sin eater' post and this one is better. Don't forget that there are still a number of people - like 88% of registered Republicans, who are quite satisfied with Bush. Pundits make noise, not history.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142436413269443732006-03-15T08:26:00.000-07:002006-03-15T08:26:00.000-07:00Terrye, ditto Barry on American Thinker. Hell, ju...Terrye, ditto Barry on American Thinker. Hell, just submit it.Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142436219977760232006-03-15T08:23:00.000-07:002006-03-15T08:23:00.000-07:00And you say I'm smart.And you say <I>I'm</I> smart.Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142433305931291652006-03-15T07:35:00.000-07:002006-03-15T07:35:00.000-07:00Terrye,Nice post for a pundit :>).But seriously, I...Terrye,<BR/><BR/>Nice post for a pundit :>).<BR/><BR/>But seriously, I think that BDS is a combination of both the uncertainties and anxieties of the WoT and Iraq <B>as well as</B> the nature of contemporary mass communication. Today political opinion, especially intense and vitriolic opinion, has an echo chamber on steroids via cable and the internet. Not too long ago we had "Clinton fatigue". Now, I had a <I>lot</I> of problems with Clinton, but there really were (are) people that were "Clinton haters". The nature of media has changed substantially since 2000 (says he who is posting on a blog in a nonchalant way when that wasn't even something I knew about 6 years ago).<BR/><BR/>I think your post is well thought out. Maybe it could be worked into a piece for the American Thinker?Barry Dauphinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15808109325931309525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142428263757615642006-03-15T06:11:00.000-07:002006-03-15T06:11:00.000-07:00I'm thinking the problem is, that if you repeat so...I'm thinking the problem is, that if you repeat something enough times, it tends to stick.<BR/><BR/>The Left's constant "Bush is responsible for.." refrain has actually taken root on the other side such that now unhappy right wing clowns are also blaming the President for whatever their pet cause is.<BR/><BR/>People are looking for a savior. Somethings never change.<BR/><BR/>(Cute avatar, Syl)Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02521739006999750126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142424315918078092006-03-15T05:05:00.000-07:002006-03-15T05:05:00.000-07:00political sin eaterLove it.Do you have any idea? a...<I>political sin eater</I><BR/><BR/>Love it.<BR/><BR/>Do you have any idea? any idea at all how good you're getting at this, Terrye? I mean you were always good. Your ideas, your common sense, your straight talk.<BR/><BR/>But I think you've reached another level lately.<BR/><BR/>And I'm lovin' every word.Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03069871911665125873noreply@blogger.com