tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post114297586635625141..comments2024-03-26T16:03:42.608-06:00Comments on Flares into Darkness: March of Dhimmitudeambisinistralhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03836786826294202405noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143044855796246592006-03-22T09:27:00.000-07:002006-03-22T09:27:00.000-07:00You could have titled this "How A Church Commits S...You could have titled this "How A Church Commits Suicide". The Church In Wales is dead. Spiritually, if nothing else. And in a Church, what else is there?benninghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12883327259794768568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143029029989843562006-03-22T05:03:00.000-07:002006-03-22T05:03:00.000-07:00gumshoe:I agree. It is.gumshoe:<BR/><BR/>I agree. It is.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143010064599347632006-03-21T23:47:00.000-07:002006-03-21T23:47:00.000-07:00(man, and edit feature would be nice...take two):"...(man, and edit feature would be nice...take two):<BR/><BR/>"My guess is some cleric in some particularly fundamentalist region deliberately brought this charge<BR/>[Afghani Christian on trial for apostasy to Islam,Death Penalty pending]just to create this situation in Afghanistan. I don't really know the details, but our mission in that country is part of the UN and NATO, it would seem there should be something that can be done."<BR/><BR/>terrye -<BR/><BR/>sounds like a very good time for<BR/>John Bolton to make some minor comments about the<BR/>UN's Declaration of Human Rights<BR/>over there in 'ole Turtle Bay.gumshoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567181585153569751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143008624999217992006-03-21T23:23:00.000-07:002006-03-21T23:23:00.000-07:00"President Bush now probably realizes that he must..."President Bush now probably realizes that he must stay in front of the cameras. This is the best way for him to get his message out."<BR/><BR/>terrye - <BR/><BR/>sounds like a very good time for <BR/>John Bolton to make some minor comments about the<BR/>UN's Declaration of Human Rights<BR/>over there in 'ole Turtle Bay.gumshoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567181585153569751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142991974701981292006-03-21T18:46:00.000-07:002006-03-21T18:46:00.000-07:00Skook,The penalty for apostasy is death. It has be...Skook,<BR/><BR/>The penalty for apostasy is death. It has been for 1200 years. I know Christian missionaries that worked in Afghanistan prior to the Russian invasion and who have recently returned from two year stints. They say it was easier in the '70's than it is now and that conversion occurs but that the church in Afghanistan is about at the same place as it was in Rome under Nero. Think quiet meetings in the catacombs.<BR/><BR/>Maybe this guy can be saved - the sentence was the big thing, not the actual execution.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142990966754927792006-03-21T18:29:00.000-07:002006-03-21T18:29:00.000-07:00I saw an interesting report on the opium in Afghan...I saw an interesting report on the opium in Afghanistan. There is a "wilt" that will destroy those poppies, In fact make it hard to ever grow them again. But the Afghan government is afraid to use it. It seems the amount of poppies that is grown has been cut by about one third and while Karzai promises to cut by another two thirds in the next 5 years it would be so much easier to just spray the damn poppies. kill them.<BR/><BR/>But they are afraid to do that for fear they will lose support so they slowly try to bring people along to growing something else. But what else pays like drugs? <BR/><BR/>You know it is just so hard to be patient.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142989638589157552006-03-21T18:07:00.000-07:002006-03-21T18:07:00.000-07:00There are all kinds of interesting east-meets-west...There are all kinds of interesting east-meets-west negotiations going on.<BR/><BR/>The Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan recently shot and killed someone on a motorized rickshaw who came too close to their position for comfort. They offered the family thirty thousand dollars in compensation. The family is demanding, in turn, the right to immigrate to Canada and be educated here.truepeershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401984575637492845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142986702943852562006-03-21T17:18:00.000-07:002006-03-21T17:18:00.000-07:00truepeers:Yes, this is not a case of Profiles in C...truepeers:<BR/><BR/>Yes, this is not a case of Profiles in Courage.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142986652447271222006-03-21T17:17:00.000-07:002006-03-21T17:17:00.000-07:00skook:Today I was reading about sati in India. Tha...skook:<BR/><BR/>Today I was reading about sati in India. That would be the tradition of throwing the widow on the funeral pyre. It was outlawed in 1829, but it came back. It has been banned as recently as 1987, and it is said by some that it is still practiced in some rural areas. Even after all these years and advancements some women in India are still burned alive. incredible.<BR/><BR/>My guess is some cleric in some particularly fundamentalist region deliberately brought this charge just to create this situation in Afghanistan. I don't really know the details, but our mission in that country is part of the UN and NATO, it would seem there should be something that can be done.<BR/><BR/>But we can not just abandon the place to the Taliban and AlQaida.<BR/><BR/> Sometimes I think that is what the crazies want. Do something the west will find so outrageous they have to attack local custom or leave. Very very touchy.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142982213374940142006-03-21T16:03:00.000-07:002006-03-21T16:03:00.000-07:00Terrye, i'd never argue that you have to protect t...Terrye, i'd never argue that you have to protect the publication of someone who has simply dumped it in some public place, without any kind of license or official permission. The fact that it was hate literature is almost besides the point. Garbage in garbage out. <BR/><BR/>What bothers me most about the present case is the extreme sensivitity of the Archbishop - which suggests the loss of the kind of calm reason that depends on normative moral foundations which, it seems, no longer exist for him. The editor seemingly was forced to quit his job for some innocuous cartoon. That's scary.truepeershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401984575637492845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1142978186452845682006-03-21T14:56:00.000-07:002006-03-21T14:56:00.000-07:00I remember years ago some white supremists left a ...I remember years ago some white supremists left a bunch of flyers at the local court house depicting blacks as apes. <BR/><BR/>It create quite a debate here, some people saying they should be destroyed because they were offensive and racist, others saying white supremists have the right to free speech too whether we like them or not. <BR/><BR/>The flyers went in the trash and so far as I know no one ever really knew how they came to be there in the first place.<BR/><BR/>I sided with the 'throw them in the trash and never let the freaks who left them anywhere near the court house again' faction.<BR/><BR/>I certainly don't think that the cartoons can be compared to that, [it seems to me they are really very bland], but it also seems that certain Muslims do see them as being just that offensive.<BR/><BR/>I think we should stand up for freedom of speech, but I also have to wonder at the motives of some Muslim leaders using this debate. I still think the Danish imam and his ilk deliberately used the cartoons to create friction. It seems to me that they are going out of their way to draw that line....they want conflict. <BR/><BR/> They want us to see Muslims as weird and they want Muslims to think the west is out to get them.<BR/><BR/> I wish there was some way to deal with this without feeding the paranoia. <BR/><BR/>I also think there are people in the west who feel that these cartoons create unnecessary trouble. In fact I remember when the original cartoons came out and Hugh Hewitt was very critical of their publication saying it would interfere with our ability to fight the GWOT. He did say that the governments had to protect the papers who published the cartoons, but he seemed annoyed that they were published in tghe first place. I am not sure how he feels now. But I do think a lot of folks felt that same way. <BR/><BR/>Hell if I know, but it is not right to let a group of people dictate to everyone else.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.com