tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post114365840868943869..comments2024-03-26T16:03:42.608-06:00Comments on Flares into Darkness: Some fun with numbersambisinistralhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03836786826294202405noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143774279158368102006-03-30T20:04:00.000-07:002006-03-30T20:04:00.000-07:00Thibaud,Go back to the Star site select Santa Cruz...Thibaud,<BR/><BR/>Go back to the <A HREF="http://star.cde.ca.gov/star2004/viewreport.asp" REL="nofollow">Star site</A> select Santa Cruz County and Scotts Valley Unified - 80% white with good scores.<BR/><BR/>Here is the <A HTTP://FACTFINDER.CENSUS.GOV/SERVLET/SAFFFACTS?_EVENT=SEARCH&GEO_ID=&_GEOCONTEXT=&_STREET=&_COUNTY=SCOTTS+VALLEY&_CITYTOWN=SCOTTS+VALLEY&_STATE=04000US06&_ZIP=&_LANG=EN&_SSE=ON&PCTXT=FPH&PGSL=010 HREF="" REL="nofollow">census data.</A><BR/><BR/>I don't know if you're familiar with the town but it's a pretty nice place. Half an hour from San Jose/Santa Clara (depending upon traffic) and a little less from the beach at Santa Cruz.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143720266581123152006-03-30T05:04:00.000-07:002006-03-30T05:04:00.000-07:00MHA:Maybe that is why bush wanted the NCLB act to ...MHA:<BR/><BR/>Maybe that is why bush wanted the NCLB act to be used in high schools too. Considering the size of the schools out there it is not so surprising. Lots of gangs, lots of kids, lots of violence, who has time for education?terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143708534630487782006-03-30T01:48:00.000-07:002006-03-30T01:48:00.000-07:00thibaud,What jumps out at me from your figures is ...thibaud,<BR/><BR/>What jumps out at me from your figures is that in every racial/ethnic group the performance declines markedly with age.<BR/><BR/>By grade 11, 42% of the Chinese kids are failing to be <I>proficient</I>?!. A school system anywhere in the world that causes 42% of the Chinese kids to fail is by definition a disaster.MeaninglessHotAirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11767916621253839341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143680650275011442006-03-29T18:04:00.000-07:002006-03-29T18:04:00.000-07:00Knuck,If you want to have fun with some numbers, t...Knuck,<BR/><BR/>If you want to have fun with some numbers, try the <A HREF="http://uscis.gov/graphics/shared/statistics/yearbook/YrBk04En.htm" REL="nofollow">INS Yearbook</A>. We are currently tossing out illegals at the rate of 1.2M annually versus 1.45 through the '90's. The INS best guess on the number of illegals in 2000 was 7M of which about 5.5M had arrived in the '90's and not been caught. If the the entrant and catch ratio remained the same from '01 through '05 then the current illegal population is under 10M rather than over 12M.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143675131148912932006-03-29T16:32:00.000-07:002006-03-29T16:32:00.000-07:00cf:If people want work, they should learn to be pl...cf:<BR/><BR/>If people want work, they should learn to be plumbers. The world will always need plumbers.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143673784574761062006-03-29T16:09:00.000-07:002006-03-29T16:09:00.000-07:00Almost all my household cleaning,gardening,mainten...Almost all my household cleaning,gardening,maintenance and repair work in D.C.is now done by immigrants but they are legal and run their own businesses. (Well, my arborist,the irrigation guy and and pool guy are native born)<BR/><BR/>In part, it is because vocational training is verbotin. We spend tens of thousands of dollars per child pretending they are college material only to have them drop out, flunk out, or graduate with no skills and not a good enough foundation to attend college.(My pool guy , a wonderful man,helps train young Black kids in his neighborhood to do the work. No one else bothers.)cfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06415260679597997353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143672922360174512006-03-29T15:55:00.000-07:002006-03-29T15:55:00.000-07:00I still do not know what it is that some people wa...I still do not know what it is that some people want...are we supposed to shoot all these Mexicans? Lay land mines at the border? I hear a lot of screaming but as a general rule the ones making the most noise do not bother to join the debate in any meaningful way. They just insult people and bitch a lot.<BR/><BR/>And they assume that anyone who does not mindlessly go along with the current screach fest is for open borders and illegal immigration. I know I am not, but I don't expect Scotty to beam these folks over to Mexico city and put up a force shield to keep them there either.<BR/><BR/>How about a rational solution that takes into account what is and is not possible? What about the kids who were born here? What do we do with them? What about the jobs, who will do them? Just rational answers to rational questions. <BR/><BR/>Too much to ask I guess.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143671487485243892006-03-29T15:31:00.001-07:002006-03-29T15:31:00.001-07:00Why, suh, it is an outrage to even consider outlaw...Why, suh, it is an outrage to even consider outlawing slavery! Who will then pick our tobacco and cotton? Our entire economy will be destroyed!!<BR/><BR/>The fact that many of our fellow Americans are hooked on their supply of cheap, obediant, docile labor like a junkie on smack does not make it it a good idea. <BR/><BR/>As with slavery, the bill can be paid now, or paid down the road with steep interest.<BR/><BR/>The problem is not going to magically become more tractable when the illegal's make up twenty percent of the population.flenserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05864178703173384289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143671483416377462006-03-29T15:31:00.000-07:002006-03-29T15:31:00.000-07:00Hell I am such a mutt. I have ancestors who walked...Hell I am such a mutt. I have ancestors who walked the Trail of Tears, were in the Revolutionary War, the war of 1812, the Civil War, the 89er Runs in Oklahoma and of course WW2 and Viet Nam and Korea. The ones who were not already here were from England, Ireland and Germany.<BR/><BR/>But you know how it is if you go back far enough you are related to everyone it seems.<BR/><BR/>I think they might do a better job of closing the borders, and if they can make money off these people they might make them pay fines. I would not be surprised to see some kind of ID to track them too.<BR/><BR/>Malkin has found a pic with an upside down American flag and of course she is whipping up the base into a frenzy.I have seen far worse on the IU campus from natives.<BR/><BR/> Maybe it is just me, maybe I spend too much time doing this kind of thing, but she is really starting to get on my nerves.<BR/><BR/>I would hate to see the Democrats win the White House with this war on... but I really think that some people on the right are making that more likely not less with all this incessant bitching and moaning and pissing around about every freaking thing.<BR/><BR/>end of rant. maybe.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143669861450424252006-03-29T15:04:00.000-07:002006-03-29T15:04:00.000-07:00Skook, I'd worry about the corned beef burritos, t...Skook, I'd worry about the corned beef burritos, though.Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143669041996951242006-03-29T14:50:00.000-07:002006-03-29T14:50:00.000-07:00I doubt they will come to a consensus but they wil...I doubt they will come to a consensus but they will definitely come to a compromise - another series of loopholes with ten thousand words nicely arranged around each one. Everyone will point to one or two sentences purporting to "deal with the problem" and nothing at all will change.<BR/><BR/>America goes through nativist surges every now and again and sometimes immigration slows for a bit. Skook's comment on the other thread is on the mark - until the schools give up the mosaic and return to the melting pot most Americans aren't going to be happy at all about immigration - legal or not.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143665298467554622006-03-29T13:48:00.000-07:002006-03-29T13:48:00.000-07:00Rick:I wonder if they will just put all the plans ...Rick:<BR/><BR/>I wonder if they will just put all the plans together and try to come up with a consensus.<BR/><BR/>Back when my people came here, you just got off the boat, and voila! you were ok fine. No real rules or anything, not by today's standards.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143663780570144802006-03-29T13:23:00.000-07:002006-03-29T13:23:00.000-07:00I finally found the actual statute regarding illeg...I finally found the <A HREF="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/8/chapters/12/subchapters/ii/parts/viii/sections/section_1325.html" REL="nofollow">actual statute</A> regarding illegal entry. It's a Class B misdemeanor (based upon the <A HREF="http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/18/parts/ii/chapters/227/subchapters/c/sections/section_3571.html" REL="nofollow">six month </A>maximum sentence, so the maximum fine would be $5,000.<BR/><BR/>I also took a look at the <A HREF="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.+2454:" REL="nofollow">immigration legislation </A>now before our most august Congressional Clown Corps. The amount of bafflegab used in the bill suggests a high degree of artistry being employed in the tatting surrounding the loopholes being enacted.<BR/><BR/>It does take a real buffoon to do a buffoon's job - good to see we're not lacking for them in the Senate.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143662602712602552006-03-29T13:03:00.000-07:002006-03-29T13:03:00.000-07:00It seems there is a lot more heat than light surro...It seems there is a lot more heat than light surrounding this issue. There is fear mongering, there is posturing, there is preening, there is hysteria, there is election year campaining....but there are not enough realistic solutions. I thank Dr. Einstone for coming up with an answer to our problem. Our microwave society can not stand long term solutions.<BR/><BR/>Just the other day I looked in on polipundit and the natives were restless. One guy said he wished we had a real conservative in the White House like Reagan, who would fix this. Well, I am not trashing Ronald Reagan here, but if I remember correctly back in the 80's he signed an immigration reform act that actually did include blanket amnesty. How soon they forget.<BR/><BR/>When I quit smoking I began to spend more time on the computer, to distract myself...that meant more time on my ass. Next thing you know I had gained over 20 pounds. I was shocked, disgusted, amazed and outraged. How could this have happened? Where did my big ass come from? Not from my eating habits, surely.<BR/><BR/> People are reacting to this issue much the same way. It took years to get where we are, it might take years to bring about real reform, and we let it happen.<BR/><BR/>But until Scotty finds a way to beam those folks over the border and then put up a force shield to keep them there...I am afraid we have to depend on a more sedate and far less exciting course of action.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.com