tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post114393611407307981..comments2024-03-26T16:03:42.608-06:00Comments on Flares into Darkness: The problem isn't right or left ...ambisinistralhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03836786826294202405noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144019573298264052006-04-02T17:12:00.000-06:002006-04-02T17:12:00.000-06:00I guess it depends: I'd say that suggesting Carrol...I guess it depends: I'd say that suggesting Carroll was encouraging warm feelings toward her captors, who had murdered her translator and kept her prisoner, was a sufficient suggestion of base motives that, were it me, I'd say "it's clear I was mistaken, and I'm sorry."Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144006862754632922006-04-02T13:41:00.000-06:002006-04-02T13:41:00.000-06:00no, seneca, he did not. you should read his piece ...no, seneca, he did not. you should read his piece again more carefully, and without the jaundiced eye. for example: <I>"To anyone who saw the videos in which she pleaded for her life, her mental distress was obvious."</I><BR/><BR/>this kind of monday-morning hand-wringing is pretty tiresome. it's become a staple of the democrats. is it now to become a staple here?<BR/><BR/>(and terrye, from another thread, the gecko in those adds is supposed to be a cockney not an aussie)ex-democrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02985594718240980140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144004318442838012006-04-02T12:58:00.000-06:002006-04-02T12:58:00.000-06:00ex-dem, he attributed rather base motives to her, ...ex-dem, he attributed rather base motives to her, and then was proven wrong. Whether he was "reasonable" or not doesn't matter --- although I wouldn't concede he was making a reasonable assumption, given the fact that all he had to go on were statements Carroll made while in the hands of Islamists. Merely having been proven wrong is enough to warrant an apology.Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143985413451582332006-04-02T07:43:00.000-06:002006-04-02T07:43:00.000-06:00I think he owes her an apology. He should have kep...I think he owes her an apology. He should have kept his mouth shut until the woman had been checked out by health care professionals and had a chance to realize she was safe. <BR/><BR/>Maybe some people think that being held at gun point and having your life threatened for weeks on end is no big deal and just gives everyone in the world the right to attack you, but in reality the blogs are getting nastier and more judgmental and quicker to shoot from the hip everyday.<BR/><BR/>Sorry, but this kind of reaction reminds me of the pictures of reporters in people's faces with cameras and microphones peppering them with questions while playing for some audience when someone else has been through some awful ordeal.<BR/><BR/>It is tacky. It is not the way gentlemen are supposed to behave.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143961195768768282006-04-01T23:59:00.000-07:002006-04-01T23:59:00.000-07:00sorry, not getting it. hindrocker's comment was p...sorry, not getting it. hindrocker's comment was perfectly reasonable at the time. yours simply has the benefit of hindsight. <BR/>perhaps next time you can call it before the cards have been turned over.ex-democrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02985594718240980140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143951978523817192006-04-01T21:26:00.000-07:002006-04-01T21:26:00.000-07:00I am getting kind of tired of the way some blogger...I am getting kind of tired of the way some bloggers just run off at the mouth without having the slightest idea what they are talking about. {present company excluded of course she said smugly}<BR/><BR/>But really, anymore it does not seem to matter what the subject is, Dubai, illegal immigration, Iraqi Civil War, young women being held at gun point by murderers, there they are pounding their chests and running off at the mouth. <BR/><BR/>There are several sites I don't go to anymore because people are just so damn mean spirited. Sometimes I think they are suffering from the same disease as cable news: me first and me loudest.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143947361029242002006-04-01T20:09:00.000-07:002006-04-01T20:09:00.000-07:00cfAgreed. And my initial (internal and unblogged) ...cf<BR/><BR/>Agreed. And my initial (internal and unblogged) reaction was that she might fall into that category. I live in Ypsilanti, which is a stone's throw from the people's republic of Ann Arbor, where Ms. Carroll was born and went to high school. Given that 93% of AA's were against the war from day one, well... More information comes out and the story gets more complex. <BR/><BR/>Skepticism should not be tossed aside, however, as you indicate. Given what we have learned about how many journalists didn't report what was happening in Iraq in order to have <I>access</I>, I want to listen for the agendas of the various parties.Barry Dauphinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15808109325931309525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143943356605235782006-04-01T19:02:00.000-07:002006-04-01T19:02:00.000-07:00Yes, barry ..and the fact that a number of the kid...Yes, barry ..and the fact that a number of the kidnapped were clearly useful idiots for the other side makes it hard not to be sceptical..Still, it's a good idea not to make a judgement until a while, isn't it?cfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06415260679597997353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1143939841440564552006-04-01T18:04:00.000-07:002006-04-01T18:04:00.000-07:00I think that part of the idiocy involves reacting ...I think that part of the idiocy involves reacting to information rapidly. It is rather easy to assemble something quickly that confirms what one already believes. Some of the comments on the Schussel site were incredibly rabid. Tonight NBC News cited "conservative bloggers" and "conspiracy theorists" for pushing the angle that she was a traitor, etc. No doubt some at NBC enjoyed <I>sticking</I> it to bloggers and creating the impression that swarms of such bloggers are going off the deep end. As of 8PM 4/1/06 EST, neither of the bloggers you cited have posted an update to this story or said, "hey I spoke too soon" and apologized for pushing the angle they pushed. I hope they do fairly soon.Barry Dauphinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15808109325931309525noreply@blogger.com