tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post114417911613844421..comments2024-03-26T16:03:42.608-06:00Comments on Flares into Darkness: Extortionambisinistralhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03836786826294202405noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144270759515951182006-04-05T14:59:00.000-06:002006-04-05T14:59:00.000-06:00Skook,Hispanic latte lapper just doesn't resonate,...Skook,<BR/><BR/>Hispanic latte lapper just doesn't resonate, does it?Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144262432082853152006-04-05T12:40:00.000-06:002006-04-05T12:40:00.000-06:00knucklehead:I won't clobber you, in fact I agree w...knucklehead:<BR/><BR/>I won't clobber you, in fact I agree with you in large part.<BR/><BR/>But a lot of hispanics are Christians too. In fact you are a lot more likely to be told not to have a nativity scene in public in an upper middle class white neighborhood in San Francisco than you ever would in some Latino neighborhood.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144217844259669192006-04-05T00:17:00.000-06:002006-04-05T00:17:00.000-06:00MHA, maybe the isolationism is a defensive reactio...MHA, maybe the isolationism is a defensive reaction from fear that too much globalization in the economy is destroying the basis for republican politics at home: a sense of belonging to a self-ruling nation, a people who share a common covenant. Those who remain confident about their nation (in a way somewhat different from being a jingo nationalist) are perhaps less isolationist, on the whole. It seems to me, watching the US, that the fear of Mexian immigration is the fear that the culture of republicanism will be lost once a certain tipping point is reached in favor of people more inclined to seek out patron-client relationships with political elites.<BR/><BR/>Many American institutions like the military do a very good job of integrating newcomers. But Mexican nationalism and aboriginal identity is something very strong (for both positive and negative - Mexican racism - reasons) that won't melt away easily when it is transplanted in large numbers. I've spent a fair bit of time in Mexico. There are many differences, regionally, but especially between the cities and countryside where the indian cultures are strong and to call the people Hispanic, or even Catholic, seems to me to beg the question of whether these categories are simply a way of ignoring real differences, kind of like the category of Mexican itself.truepeershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401984575637492845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144212595416559372006-04-04T22:49:00.000-06:002006-04-04T22:49:00.000-06:00I think there are some odd subterranean currents f...I think there are some odd subterranean currents flowing these days and this particular brouhaha is just one visible sign of it. I chatted with a businessman from Montreal today who pointed out to me that we live in a wondrous age, we have more things than we ever imagined when we were kids, our economy is good, our life expectancy is at a record high--why all the complaining? Yet there's definitely a feeling of malaise all over the place. A real urge toward isolationism. Just pull back the troops, kick out los mexicanos and pull up the drawbridges and all will be well. You have singled out the white Republicans but I don't think it's limited to that. I think this new urge toward isolationism, if that's all it is, is popping out in different ways all over the political spectrum. Much of the oppos ition to the war in Iraq is of the same nature. So is the anti-globalization movement. All part and parcel of the same phenomenon. Fear, uncertainty, doubt. Knucklehead is right.MeaninglessHotAirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11767916621253839341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144203315439127172006-04-04T20:15:00.000-06:002006-04-04T20:15:00.000-06:00truepeers:Our southwest was populated by hispanics...truepeers:<BR/><BR/>Our southwest was populated by hispanics before the American Civil War so I mean hispanic, as in hispanic. Many of them tend to be Catholic and conservative and hardworking. In fact my brother [who is in Oklahoma] said he was currently keeping track of the Catholic Churches in town to ascertain how many hispanics there are moving in. Our Attorney General is hispanic. {according to the last census there are only 1220 hispanics in my home town. I think Mickey can stop panicking}<BR/><BR/>In 1996, Bob Dole got 21% of the hispanic vote, in 2004 George Bush got 44% of the vote. <BR/><BR/>There are ofcourse the Cubans who speak Spanish, but since they are running from Castro people kind of overlook it when they show up a little less than legal.<BR/><BR/>If Republicans make targetting these people a partisan issue, they will not just lose them...they will lose a lot of other people as well. Ever heard of the Know Nothing party? Look it up.<BR/><BR/>Point is we can and should deal with the issue without being quite so ugly about the whole thing.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144194148556362122006-04-04T17:42:00.000-06:002006-04-04T17:42:00.000-06:00ahah!ahah!ex-democrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02985594718240980140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144192744279528182006-04-04T17:19:00.000-06:002006-04-04T17:19:00.000-06:00btw, that whole angry white male things was tongue...btw, that whole angry white male things was tongue in cheek. I love angry white males, really I do. I sleep with one every night.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144189621595199132006-04-04T16:27:00.000-06:002006-04-04T16:27:00.000-06:00exdemocrat:That woman is insane.exdemocrat:<BR/><BR/>That woman is insane.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144185006503102172006-04-04T15:10:00.000-06:002006-04-04T15:10:00.000-06:00To this distant observer, it seems as if this is a...To this distant observer, it seems as if this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't for the Reps. Terrye is surely right about a backlash to deportation talk. But if the present migration continues, surely it is also a nightmare for the Republicans - the creation of huge client class for Democrat welfare state race baiters. I'm sure some Mexicans won't buy into that game, but if you look at the nature of the corrupt state in Mexico, one would have to guess many will go for an anti-Gringo party.<BR/><BR/>When you're damned either way, you're free to do the right thing.truepeershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16401984575637492845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144184227433942302006-04-04T14:57:00.000-06:002006-04-04T14:57:00.000-06:00Knuck,That's why bombing Qum flatter than a pancak...Knuck,<BR/><BR/>That's why bombing Qum flatter than a pancake is going to be a political winner. It's that quaint Jacksonian American quirk - "war to the knife, knife to the hilt". The mullahs ought to watch more Westerns. It might save some of them.<BR/><BR/>The next third party will be created when the Dems shove the libs off the train. They are going nowhere until they do so and trying to suck a few more dollars out of Soros and his ilk isn't proving to be the success that was hoped for.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1144180672825629872006-04-04T13:57:00.000-06:002006-04-04T13:57:00.000-06:00And the Right calls the Left selfish. ::eye roll::...And the Right calls the Left selfish. ::eye roll::<BR/><BR/>If I don't get my way, screw America. That's what these third-party threats sound like to me.Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03069871911665125873noreply@blogger.com