tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post114630982078120875..comments2024-03-26T16:03:42.608-06:00Comments on Flares into Darkness: Who is the worst President?ambisinistralhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03836786826294202405noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146365380144703272006-04-29T20:49:00.000-06:002006-04-29T20:49:00.000-06:00Rick:If I remember right I read somewhere than Gra...Rick:<BR/><BR/>If I remember right I read somewhere than Grant said it was if the South had won after all.<BR/><BR/>There were more blacks in government, more blacks who owned property etc in those few years after the Civil War than there would be for another century. Those people were not after hand outs or any like that...they just wanted a chance. If they had been allowed to have that chance unmolested back then we might have avoided generations of poverty and dysfunction.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146364680341361682006-04-29T20:38:00.000-06:002006-04-29T20:38:00.000-06:00Loner,The only negative about Coolidge was that he...Loner,<BR/><BR/>The only negative about Coolidge was that he talked a little too much.<BR/><BR/>Terrye,<BR/><BR/>Yep - it wasn't a compromise, it was abnegation, a complete cave in of principles. Lincoln could have made a similiar compromise in '61.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146362653923654182006-04-29T20:04:00.000-06:002006-04-29T20:04:00.000-06:00Well you could make the case that if Hayes had not...Well you could make the case that if Hayes had not signed the Hayes compromise and let the South run over the right of the ex slaves we might have avoided a lot of pain in the long run.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146359131080842902006-04-29T19:05:00.000-06:002006-04-29T19:05:00.000-06:00To blame George Bush for dividing the nation is li...To blame George Bush for dividing the nation is like blaming the rape victim. Once Democrats took his measure, they realized that only by lying and distorting reality could they possibly neutralize his appeal across the spectrum. From the moment he took office, only the negative has been reported by their lapdog press, even when it is demonstrably false. Most people don't play close attention. They are dupes, and the truth is the casualty.Kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14905781798277012793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146356029097386102006-04-29T18:13:00.000-06:002006-04-29T18:13:00.000-06:00Good call, Loner.Good call, Loner.MeaninglessHotAirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11767916621253839341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146351570867855332006-04-29T16:59:00.000-06:002006-04-29T16:59:00.000-06:00Rick—Hence the question mark. My own personal fav...Rick—<BR/><BR/>Hence the question mark. My own personal favorite among the Presidents (based on nothing but my reading and watching through the years) is Coolidge. If I had a least favorite among the ones I know much about, I suppose it would be Wilson.<BR/><BR/>Had there not been a Watergate Scandal would anyone who has become President since Nixon have been President? I think I could reasonably argue that only Clinton would have been a possibility. Is that a positive or a negative where Nixon is concerned? <BR/><BR/>Terrye—<BR/><BR/>The President did better than I expected he would in California.lonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13329414340481290010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146347823142642482006-04-29T15:57:00.000-06:002006-04-29T15:57:00.000-06:00Loner,You have to set some sort of criteria to det...Loner,<BR/><BR/>You have to set some sort of criteria to determine worst, don't you? I could make a case for worst on Hayes, F. Roosevelt and L. Johnson based on lasting damage done.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146344802333035132006-04-29T15:06:00.000-06:002006-04-29T15:06:00.000-06:00loner:62 million and a majority, however slim. May...loner:<BR/><BR/>62 million and a majority, however slim. <BR/><BR/>Maybe, or Grant.<BR/><BR/>One thing that surprised me on that election was how close Wisconsin was.<BR/><BR/>The best guy for predicting things like that is Barone.<BR/><BR/>He has such a memory for detail.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146342197422704512006-04-29T14:23:00.000-06:002006-04-29T14:23:00.000-06:00A man can only take so much, but it's only because...A man can only take so much, but it's only because it involves another Roger thread he loves...<BR/><BR/>Jay Cost <A HREF="http://jaycost.blogspot.com/2004/11/predictions.html" REL="nofollow">predicts</A>...<BR/><BR/>"The election simply cannot be 51-49 or even 51-48." He mistakenly calls Minnesota and Wisconsin for Bush and doesn't make a call on Pennsylvania.<BR/><BR/>Another guy <A HREF="http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2004/10/dangerous_flipf.php#c23682" REL="nofollow">predicts</A> (look through all the comments)...<BR/><BR/>He doesn't call the vote percentages, but he's consistantly argued for months that it'll be relatively close. He mistakenly calls nothing and doesn't make a call on Iowa, New Mexico, Ohio and Wisconsin.<BR/><BR/>The President gets 50.77% of the vote and 286 electoral votes. The Senator gets 48.31% of the vote and 252 electoral votes.<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>Worst President? Franklin Pierce?lonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13329414340481290010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146327528860352962006-04-29T10:18:00.000-06:002006-04-29T10:18:00.000-06:00I didn't find this one of Cost's better efforts. W...I didn't find this one of Cost's better efforts. Wilentz is using the shabby cloth of his position within academentia to pimp a polemic and while Cost notes deficiencies in his approach, I would argue that a simple dismissal would have been more appropriate. I enjoy Cost's writing on political science as much as Clarice does but this piece lacks the clarity that he achieves when writing within his own field.<BR/><BR/>As Terrye points out, doing the right thing doesn't mean that you're going to win popularity contests.Rick Ballardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11082425215912372067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146321863604481142006-04-29T08:44:00.000-06:002006-04-29T08:44:00.000-06:00Jay Cost is the most brilliant political scientist...Jay Cost is the most brilliant political scientist in America. I learned more about polling from his horserace blog in 2004 than I ever learned elsewhere and he pegged the election results most accurately.Later I learned he was simply a grad student when he wrote it.<BR/><BR/>Since then, I ignore all pundits and polls except for Cost and Barone.cfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06415260679597997353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146315991780076512006-04-29T07:06:00.000-06:002006-04-29T07:06:00.000-06:00Oh, and worst president is a toss up between Bucha...Oh, and worst president is a toss up between Buchanan, Wilson and Carter.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02521739006999750126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1146315897798614852006-04-29T07:04:00.000-06:002006-04-29T07:04:00.000-06:00IMHO, had Gore won the election (in whatever way) ...IMHO, had Gore won the election (in whatever way) The Republicans would have been honked off, but I don't think they would have peddled this 'stolen election' meme that the Dems have for the past 6 years. <BR/><BR/>However, the reaction of the country to 9/11 would have been substantially different, I think. There would have been the initial 'rally round the flag', but given the continuation between the Clinton and Gore administration, I'm thinking that the public would have blamed both Gore and Clinton for the mess. I posit that a President Gore would have invaded AF, but not Iraq. <BR/><BR/>I think Gore would have been a one term president, being replaced by somebody like Guiliani. <BR/><BR/>Like I said, my opinion, and you're welcome to it.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02521739006999750126noreply@blogger.com