tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post115304711304983042..comments2024-02-28T14:41:47.313-07:00Comments on Flares into Darkness: One submarineambisinistralhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03836786826294202405noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1153102313273443272006-07-16T20:11:00.000-06:002006-07-16T20:11:00.000-06:00You are correct MHA. The disconnect is huge and gr...You are correct MHA. The disconnect is huge and growing I fear. I do not know what will change the momentum. I'm not sure anymore if even a large attack would do the trick. It's like freedom just fell out of the GD sky.<BR/><BR/>And thanks by the way for answering my question way below re: cynicism. I did not realize you were going all "meta-narrative" on me :-)<BR/><BR/>Well Syl, I guess it depends where one is sitting as to whether its chaos or order. If one were not one of Saddam's cronies, I suspect life was pretty chaotic. And it may well be now. But at least they now can hold to a glimmer of hope that things may get better.<BR/><BR/>Though the idea of introducing more chaos into the ME has appeal.Lutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08901441364329385474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1153096898759560072006-07-16T18:41:00.000-06:002006-07-16T18:41:00.000-06:00I still go back to the realities of chaos theory. ...I still go back to the realities of chaos theory. Introduce chaos into a complex system and order results. Introduce order and chaos results.<BR/><BR/>All that really says is that whatever is done, the consequences aren't necessarily what we perceive them to be.<BR/><BR/>We introduced chaos into the M.E. by removing Saddam from power. Order hasn't resulted.<BR/><BR/>Seems to me we simply haven't introduced enough chaos yet.Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03069871911665125873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1153077315739317172006-07-16T13:15:00.000-06:002006-07-16T13:15:00.000-06:00We live in a world in which approximately 40% of o...We live in a world in which approximately 40% of our compatriots—more in Canada and Australia, and many more in Europe—have convinced themselves that the military is unnecessary and an anachronism. The sooner we unilaterally disband the better. They feel this way because they live in a world entirely disconnected from the need to defend themselves.MeaninglessHotAirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11767916621253839341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1153068285638343762006-07-16T10:44:00.000-06:002006-07-16T10:44:00.000-06:00I know Terrye, I just wanted to clarify my ambiguo...I know Terrye, I just wanted to clarify my ambiguous language.<BR/><BR/>There have been many good discussions here at Flares on the pros and cons of using our military to its fullest capabilities. I believe most ended without consensus.<BR/><BR/>But your larger point is certainly correct. The issue is never broached by the larger MSM, subsequently it is never debated in public discourse. It just seems too be held as a given that we can never again use our full might. And in that sense you are again correct, in some ways "our military is an anachronism".<BR/><BR/>I believe most folks in this country still consider that only an all out war, with China for example, would be justification for unleashing the full capabilities of our military.<BR/><BR/>We all know the political repercussions, domestically and internationally, that would follow an implemented policy of militarily solving the problems we face in the Middle East. It just seems too me that those repercussions are being overshadowed and made a lesser worry by the dangers we face if our current situation is left to continue status quo.<BR/><BR/>To end with a simplistic and non PC analogy. Sometimes when dealing with a two year old, you have to give them a good slap on the a** to get their attention and let them know who is in charge. I think we have reached that point in the ME.<BR/><BR/>No, I don't have kids, but I have helped raise a few.Lutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08901441364329385474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1153065155633010962006-07-16T09:52:00.000-06:002006-07-16T09:52:00.000-06:00Luther, I think I know what you meant. But it got ...Luther, I think I know what you meant. But it got me to thinking of how seldom we really talk about doing just that, getting it over. <BR/><BR/>We hear people say that the US is bogged down in Iraq and can't fight a war and I think to myself, do these people really know what our military is capable of? Or have we lived in a era where 2,000 casualties are considered high number for so long that our military is an anachronism?terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1153058298850911232006-07-16T07:58:00.000-06:002006-07-16T07:58:00.000-06:00Let me clarify one thing. I was/am not calling for...Let me clarify one thing. I was/am not calling for the total destruction of Iran.<BR/><BR/>I should have added the work "mullah" to the crimp their lifestyle sentence.<BR/><BR/>Precisely targeted, conventional weapons, military and infrastructure only. Relentlessly, until they are not a threat to anyone, now or in future.<BR/><BR/>Just get it over.Lutherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08901441364329385474noreply@blogger.com