tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post113446381376303874..comments2024-03-26T16:03:42.608-06:00Comments on Flares into Darkness: The "Opinionated Bastard"…ambisinistralhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03836786826294202405noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1134555065179631742005-12-14T03:11:00.000-07:002005-12-14T03:11:00.000-07:00You'll have to google the Brit military poll Senec...<I>You'll have to google the Brit military poll Seneca. </I><BR/><BR/>I have: I see lots of people citing it, but the poll itself doesn't show up. Just lots of hearsay.<BR/><BR/>Your other point -- that we'd provide better security by simply pulling out -- is stupid.Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1134513244804819752005-12-13T15:34:00.000-07:002005-12-13T15:34:00.000-07:00This poll is a mess. I read the BBC version of it ...<I>This poll is a mess. I read the BBC version of it and the methodology is all screwed up. You can read whatever you want into it. But at least they tried. I think taking a decent poll in Iraq is almost impossible anyway. People who've lived under a Stalinist thug for 30 years have a reflexive reaction to say what they think the powers that be want to hear.</I><BR/><BR/>But Mark, you were citing the "80 percent of Iraqis hate us" poll just the other day. (A poll which, by the way, no one seems to be able to tracxk down. Can you find me a citation to the actual poll?) <BR/><BR/>You wouldn't want us to think that your position on polls is "whatever I agree with is a good poll"?<BR/><BR/>In this poll, the results seem pretty plausible: they think things have gotten better, they're not happy with the occupation, they think they can govern themselves, and they want the US to leave as soon as they can secure Iraq themselves.Charlie Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586506407851173416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16821859.post-1134473570264848312005-12-13T04:32:00.000-07:002005-12-13T04:32:00.000-07:00I don't think it was asked in this poll... but in ...I don't think it was asked in this poll... but in every poll I have seen the majority of the Iraqi people are glad Saddam is gone. In fact the majority wants him dead. <BR/><BR/>I did note that after the President's speech yesterday the AP latched onto the 30 thousand number. All that good stuff and they make a headline out of the one bad thing.<BR/><BR/>I saw that exchange and a reporter asked how many Iraqis had died, the president responded that the insurgents had killed about 30,000 if I remember correctly.[and he mentioned the number of our dead as well]<BR/><BR/>Which might have some bearing on these numbers and the even better numbers in the other recent polls. The Iraqis are blaming the insurgents for a lot of the killing.<BR/><BR/>One poll said the number of Iraqis with cell phones has grown from 6% to 64% in the last couple of years, personal wealth has grown as well. All kinds of things are going on over there besides car bombs. <BR/><BR/>I do hope we can bring our people home soon, but the most important thing is to complete the mission. The Iraqis deserve a chance.terryehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16609746018265953069noreply@blogger.com