Damned Denialists....

Thursday, August 09, 2007
Anthony Watts and Steve McIntyre aren't "climate scientists". Every warmer in the world will tell you that. 'Denialist' is the kindest appellation that a watermelon would ever utter in denouncing the heresy against a loving Gaia committed by these two, for they have shattered an honored shibboleth, destroyed a beloved icon, broken a revered amulet, for they have forced NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies to rerank the hottest years in the US, thus putting to rest Mann's claim that "there is a 95 to 99% certainty that 1998 was the hottest year in the last one thousand years".

They also succeeded in making Kerry supporter James Hansen (the NASA guy who claimed the Bush administration was "silencing" him in a month where he gave thirty interviews) look like... well, there just isn't a kind way of putting it. Dr. Hansen appears to have a very good reason to refuse to "show his work".

Not bad for a couple of fellows without the proper "credentials".

UPDATE: "I've been told that climateaudit.org has been disabled by a DDOS attack. It may be a week before it's back up." - That's Steve McIntyre in comments at Anthony Watts backup blog, where Anthony has posted the CA announcement piece. Why backup blog? Well, surfacestations.org is down too.

The Congregatio pro Doctrina Gaia Fidei are certainly busy laddies.

UPDATE: Steyn provides additional analysis of the propaganda impact (or lack thereof) of the revisions. The warmmongers need to update their own propaganda to reflect the changes. You have to admire the footwork used in booting the ball forward to 2009 - and then tossing in enough caveats to hide an elephant
"Over the 100-year timescale, the main change is going to come from greenhouse gases that will dominate natural variability, but in the coming 10 years the natural internal variability is comparable,"
I'll bet that if I rub a little of that on my sore elbow it will clear it right up.

12 comments:

Barry Dauphin said...

The site has been disabled by global warming, as the Hockey Team has gotten hot under the collar.

Knucklehead said...

It is quite amazing what the religious zealots of the Universalist Church of the Gaia's Hot Flashes would have us believe.

If one has a look at readily available information about temperature measurement over history (for example, Instrumental Temperature Record) it becomes painfully clear that there is no reliable "near surface instrumented temperature" data set.

Those who make pretty, very scientific looking charts and graphs love to start their time axis in 1850 or 1860, but there were no large numbers of uniformly defined temperature stations back in the mid 19th century and even the early 20th century.

The graphs and charts look fantastic and are made to show all sorts of trends in "global temperature" over the past century. The fact of the matter is that the data set is so BAD that it is useless.

Knucklehead said...

Rick,

I thought you'd enjoy this from a Seattle Times article of Oct. 11, 2005, The truth about global warming:

"With each passing year the evidence has gotten stronger — and is getting stronger still."

1995 was the hottest year on record until it was eclipsed by 1997 — then 1998, 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004.


Wow! 7 "hottest year on record" hits in 12 years including 4 years running! When will you deniers wake up?

Rick Ballard said...

Knuck,

It's the refusal to release code for adjustments that gets me. Hansen doesn't own the damn "black box" - the USG does. Some of these guys are scared to death to release code to competent statisticians, not because they've phonied up the data, but because they are not competent in statistics and they know it.

I agree with Pielke that it is probable that "warming" is occuring. I also agree that extent and cause cannot be placed anywhere near the "certain" column that the AGW folks pretend is "settled".

I became interested in this because I smelled great big rats using smoke and mirrors to hustle dough - and I haven't changed my mind about that at all. I find, though, that I'm getting more and more interested in the actual science aspects - like that paper on Pielke's site on cooling in India due to increased irrigation. That would never, ever have caught my eye before the AGW zealots made a run at my wallet.

Barry Dauphin said...

...before the AGW zealots made a run at my wallet.

They've just started reaching for our wallets. I'm sure we ain't seen nothing yet.

loner said...
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loner said...

The fact of the matter is that the data set is so BAD that it is useless.

True, but nobody is stopped from using it daily to call this or that a record and from doing this or that statistical analysis to prove this or that is or isn't happening with the only challenges of any note coming from, so far as it is possible to tell, those with a probable political and/or financial stake in having the result be otherwise regardless of the result obtained...lies, damned lies, and statistics.

We're talking the last 10 years in 150+ years of recorded temperatures when it's probable, from geological evidence (unless that to has recently been disputed,) that we're still in the midst of an ice age that dates back 40 million years.

The AGW advocates would have done better to suggest that we consider what could be done to keep this an interglacial and not the end of this particular ice age. Suggesting that humans bear a heavy responsibility for what might be happening based on the data at hand invited all the criticism (and a lot more) it has generated and little of it because of the bad data everybody is manipulating.

An epoch rant if you like.


Notes:

I decided a differently defined adjective was needed in the last line of the previous comment.

Earlier this week, I was going to comment in the Weekly Links post that I'd never thought of the HAL9000 as a robot (#2 on that movie list) so I looked up the definition and decided HAL does make the grade based on how the word is currently being defined.

Rick—

Did Burke disappear because he was nonsecure?

Anybody—

Any idea why Blogger doesn't remember me? It's not a problem I have in any other place where I have to provide a username and password. Thanks.

And, yes, I check the little box.

Rick Ballard said...

"Did Burke disappear because he was nonsecure?"

Yeah. He was hanging comments - he actually giggled about it, I believe.

You might drop a note to google about the problem. Dropping out and rejoining worked for me once.

Seneca the Younger said...

True, but nobody is stopped from using it daily to call this or that a record and from doing this or that statistical analysis to prove this or that is or isn't happening with the only challenges of any note coming from, so far as it is possible to tell, those with a probable political and/or financial stake in having the result be otherwise regardless of the result obtained...lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Loner, to the extent that this is meant to refer to Pielke per et fils, McKittrick and McIntyre, Wegner, or Lomborg, it's really just bullshit. Neglecting that it's ad hom circumstantial anyway, the "anti-denialists" have had to construct amazing structures of linked funding to make a case for some funding coming from Oil, and in Wegman's case nothing could be found, and the response team had to resort to noting that Wegman was once funded by the Space Defense Initiative.

Seneca the Younger said...

Loner, Blogger keeps that identity stuff in a cookie. It's probable that you have just short cookie expiration or something.

Or, Blogger could just be buggy.

loner said...

seneca—

Perhaps. I trouble myself over the subject once in a great while and only when someone here shows an interest and provides links. This time it was the UPDATE that interested me. Otherwise, I pay little attention to the climate and controversies surrounding it except to occasionally note something with my own lying eyes. For instance, within a few days of arriving in Washington I noticed that not many people used an umbrella when out in the rain. I found this interesting and, upon reflection, to my liking. Now the umbrella hangs in the coat closet and I always know where it is.

On the other thing, it's something about IE. The cookie has a 5:00 PM expiration on 1/17/38. Firefox remembers. IE has no trouble retaining access info from other sites. Probably should have noted that it's IE as I have no idea who uses what browser here.

I'm reading 1984 (it's been 30 years) at the moment, but I think I'll close out tonight with another viewing of Rashomon.

Best.

Barry Dauphin said...

Gee, warming to pick up in 2009, right after Hillary takes office I guess.