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Friday, December 23, 2005
The NSA surveillance program has been the hot topic since the Iraqi elections. And during that period Bush's approval rating has steadily climbed.

Rasmussen has him hitting 50 today!

Now another leak has made into in the news. US News and World Report has this headline:

Nuclear Monitoring of Muslims Done Without Search Warrants


In search of a terrorist nuclear bomb, the federal government since 9/11 has run a far-reaching, top secret program to monitor radiation levels at over a hundred Muslim sites in the Washington, D.C., area, including mosques, homes, businesses, and warehouses, plus similar sites in at least five other cities, U.S. News has learned.
Keep up the leaks, folks, and Bush will be at 100% approval by July!

Okay, shall we take bets on how long it takes for the Saudi funded Religious Police, er CAIR, to protest?

And when are we going to get some pushback from the government against all these leaks that affect national security? This one is especially egregious since now al Qaeda knows which cities we are NOT monitoring.

59 comments:

Knucklehead said...

Each of these leaks stands the charge that "nothing is being done to make us safer in our homes" on it's head.

Do moonbats and Dems (a difference without a distinction?) really believe that the general American public is going to get all nervous and jerky when they learn the FBI is wandering around looking for radiation?

Do "civil rights" activists, and hardcore libertarians, really believe that we shouldn't be looking for home-made nukes and (what they are almost certainly really looking for) dirty bomb makin's 'cause, after all, no crime is committed until a crime has been committed? If they can stop me at any moment and place of their choosing to see if I've had a glass of wine in the past couple hours prior to driving, I've got no problem with them wandering around with high-tech geiger counters. And I doubt the average American has a problem with it.

Knucklehead said...

Krauthammer drops the hammer on the idiots beginning to bleat for "impeachment" for these "civil liberties violations".

A sample...

Some even suggest that Bush has thereby so trampled the Constitution that impeachment should now be considered. (Barbara Boxer, Jonathan Alter, John Dean and various luminaries of the left have already begun floating the idea.) The braying herds have already concluded, Tenet-like, that the president's actions were slam-dunk illegal. It takes a superior mix of partisanship, animus and ignorance to say that.

Just so.

Luther McLeod said...

You said it well 'knuck'. It is heartening to know that folks are out there doing their job. Let CAIR (ht:lgf) bleat all it wants, this is our country, they may or may not end up being a part of it. Damn, that sounds horrible, but I don't care anymore. To hell with them.

vnjagvet said...

This situation is unprecedented in our history.

In the past, when there was a credible threat to our nation, all but the most "radical" (that was usually the descriptor of choice) supported all governmental efforts to prevent an overt attack on our Nation's people, property and economy.

True, there were arguments as to whether a nation (e.g. the Vietcong, North Vietnam, North Korea, Mao's China) or ideology (e.g. Communism)indeed presented a "credible threat" to the Nation.

But if we were overtly attacked as we were on September 11, by people who announced they were "out to get us", the people were never reticent about taking extraordinary steps to protect ourselves.

It is hard to understand why the attitude of a significant portion of our population is so different now.

Knucklehead said...

Shannon Love over at ChicagoBoyz (.net!) has a take on this issue that I haven't seen elsewhere. He writes about Probing Questions and after a little tongue in cheek, err... hand in glove... whatever, gets down to business and makes what seems to me a rather interesting point (if somewhat exaggerated).

Seneca the Younger said...

Okay, betting is closed, I heard CAIR complaining about it on the way home tonight.

neuroconservative said...

vnjagvet--

Fortunately, those moonbats only represent about 20% of the electorate, and are driving the rest of the populace steadily rightward.

I am curious whether any of you have ever seen a leftie explain what actual harm to our civil liberties has taken place. I have tried to engage a few on other websites, but they only engage in hypotheticals (slippery slope arguments and the like) -- at best. Often they are reduced to mouthing cliches (Lord Acton), and when challenged they retreated to a violation of Godwin's rule.

chuck said...

Does it require a search warrant to monitor radiation levels? Does this violate anyones right to privacy? I suppose the government could be accused of profiling, but I think Willie Sutton's explanation for that sort of thing still stands. When he was asked why he robbed banks, he replied, "Because that's where the money is."

Doug said...

vnjagvet said...
"It is hard to understand why the attitude of a significant portion of our population is so different now. "
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30 years of the biggest loser lefties of the 70's being in complete control of public "education."
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Or as Sowell describes:
The Bottom of the Bottom of the Academic Barrel.

Seneca the Younger said...

All right, folks, I've got a puzzle for you.

Can anyone come up with a plausible scenario in which people in a mosque, a home, or a storefront would be doing anything legal and "ordinary" that would result in emitting high energy neutrons, alphas or gamma rays? About all I can think of is cobalt or polonium "seeds" in radiation treatment.

neuroconservative said...

The following quote from the US News piece was actually very comforting, to see that PC insanity has not totally infected our counter-terrorism effort [emph added]:

Officials also reject any notion that the program specifically has targeted Muslims. "We categorically do not target places of worship or entities solely based on ethnicity or religious affiliation," says one. "Our investigations are intelligence driven and based on a criminal predicate."

neuroconservative said...

sty -- I think that if you said that to a moonbat, their head would explode. They have truly painted themselves into a corner with this one. I hope it gets wide media traction, and that CAIR fights it tooth and nail.

Luther McLeod said...

On the topic of leaks, it is becoming ridiculous. Appropriate investigations should be taking place as we speak. But are they?

There was a good discussion re: whistle-blower's, over at RLS's some months back. I agree that there is room for nuanced debate on the subject. But there comes a time...

terrye said...

I think more people are concerned about the number of leaks than they are about some poor terrorist being "watched".

Geez, can't you see it, some guy from Pakistan calls some guy in Detroit and starts talking about plans for an attack and the agent hangs up for fear he will be invading the privacy of said terrorist.

Now we are getting search warrants for the air.

This is stupid.

Peter UK said...

This is certainly discrimination,why are Muslims singled out for preferential treatment,are not other Americans at risk from nuclear weapons?

Glenmore said...

NYTimes comes to the aid of terrorists AGAIN this morning. Article on NSA warrantless phone monitoring far greater than Bush admitted. Specifically, a 'connection mining' program. It is probably the single most effective way to detect terrorist (or spy) cells. Terrorists probably knew better than to say important things in phone and e-mail communications, but may not have realized the risk of the very existence of a communication connection. It is not at all clear to me that monitoring the connection itself (rather than the content) requires a warrant, though no doubt serious privacy activists will (plausibly) contend it does. I liken it to conventional police 'stake-outs', where you just watch who's coming and going, and follow those who look interesting, then see who they meet, etc.

Doug said...

Peter 5:35 AM,
You are correct, we all are equal risks.
But,
Muslims are more likely to detonate a Nuke in their own homes.

Peter UK said...

Doug,
Yes,but there is there is the inalienable Constitutional right of American citizens to posses thermonuclear weapons.Whilst not wishing to emanate beyond the penumbra,I am sure the founders intended you to keep up to date with your weapons systems.
Though I do worry somewhat about you sitting alone in your missile silo with a pallet of beer and a few Jazz Marlboro,but then again that is what freedon is about,taking risks.

Buddy Larsen said...

Well, Peter, it's not as if the Crown doesn't have it'd own stockpile of glow-jewels!

Peter UK said...

Buddy,
This is about individual rights,just updating "Every Citizen a Rifleman" to "Every Citizen a Rocketperson",you have to move with the times.

Buddy Larsen said...

I do, I DO, I'm up to 1850 now.

Buddy Larsen said...

Understanding English

Peter UK said...

"Irony/sarcasm - The cornerstones of British humour. This is one of the biggest differences between the nations. The sense of humour simply doesn't translate too well."

Irony and Sarcasm are not the same thing,this seems to be a common misapprehension on the web,5:35am was irony,"I am not a dickhead like some people I can think of, Mark Garrity", is sarcasm.

Gibbon was the master of understated irony

Buddy Larsen said...

Well understated irony.

(*groan*) check your "irony" link, Peter--it wouldn't work a sec ago--

No, really, no ironic reference to irony, the link actually really doesn't work.

Seriously, c'mon, really.
\;-D

Peter UK said...

Buddy,
The Gibbon irony link won't work,how understated can you get?

ex-democrat said...

peterUK, aka, "doug piranha" : http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/piranha.htm

Peter UK said...

Try this
Funky Gibbon BTW.

Buddy Larsen said...

Ahh...a mystery wrapped in an enigma....

You know, if that one former naval person had had only a little less command of the language, it could've plausbly meant the permanent end of the free world? Crazy thought--but maybe a true one.

Buddy Larsen said...

plausibly

Syl said...

Peter at 5:35 was brilliant.

I guess that was irony. :)

BTW, it occurred to me we already know about these trucks that roll around and can detect radiation. I remember a couple years ago I was radioactive for about 24 hours because of a medical test and I was wishing I could get to DC to test the system.

But this leak is dangerous to PEOPLE as well. Those guys doing the testing who may have to step onto property will now have to stop what they're doing or get shotgunned.

And our government better start pushing back on these leaks soon. The earlier drop in Bush's approval rating wasn't for his policies as much as for his lack of fighting spirit here at home.

He not only has to protect us from Islamofascists, he has to protect us from the left loonies too.

Buddy Larsen said...

Fantastic link, Peter! He really works the Germans over, doesn't he?

Knucklehead said...

Neuroconservative,

I am curious whether any of you have ever seen a leftie explain what actual harm to our civil liberties has taken place. I have tried to engage a few on other websites, but they only engage in hypotheticals (slippery slope arguments and the like) -- at best.

I have also tried and experienced precisely what you have. I have yet to hear an explanation of what civil liberties have been compromised.

Peter UK said...

Syl,
Thank You.
I always thought that it would have been better to leave the Islamofascists in Afghanistan and put the Left in Guantanamo. Since the left believes in nothing it would be impossible to offend them,in fact they would probably enjoy being oppressed.

Doug said...
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Doug said...

Knucklehead,
Just try saying
"Merry Christmas"
in the employ of certain Corporations.
You'll see.

Buddy Larsen said...

Well, the answer I'm getting is, the right is concerned about degrees of right-vs-wrong, while the left is doing the either/or.

Either "the government" owns the gray area, or "the people" do.

Geez--air game and ground game indeed.

Doug said...

When it comes to irony, I am
The Master of Gibbons.

Buddy Larsen said...

Imagine the screaming if we had this again--which I for one wish we DID.

Peter UK said...

Buddy,
"Either "the government" owns the gray area, or "the people" do."

In which case why not put it to the vote,a simple Yes or No question would do.
"Do we shoot the bastards first and ask questions afterwards?"

Buddy Larsen said...

Doug, "Don't Rust Anybody Under Thirty" ?

Doug said...

The left can own the Grey Area
as long as I can keep my head.

Buddy Larsen said...

Peter, that referendum would certainly tell which is the 'party of the people' and which isn't.

Buddy Larsen said...

A tourist walks into a curio shop in San Francisco. Looking around at everything, he notices a very lifelike life-sized bronze statue of a rat. It has no price tag, but is so striking that he decides he must have it. So he takes it to the owner and asks, "How much for the bronze rat?"

The owner replies, "$12 for the rat and $100 for the story."

The tourist gives the man $12 and says, "I'll just take the rat, you can keep the story."
As he walks down the street carrying his bronze rat, he notices that a few real rats have crawled out of the alleys and sewers and begun following him down the street. This is disconcerting, and he begins walking faster. But within a couple of blocks, the herd of rats behind him has grown to hundreds, and they begin squealing. He begins to trot toward the Bay, looking around to see that the rats now number in the MILLIONS, and are squealing and coming toward him faster and faster.
Concerned, even scared, he runs to the edge of the Bay, and throws the bronze rat as far out into the water as he can. Amazingly, the millions of rats all jump into the Bay after it, and are all drowned. The man walks back to the curio shop."Ah ha", says the owner, "you have come back for the story?"

"No", says the man, "I came back to see if you have a bronze Democrat."

Doug said...

Which was worse,
The Radiation Leak from Ali's House,
or the Plame Leak?

Peter UK said...

Mustapha Leeq.

Buddy Larsen said...

ht Maggie's Farm, the author, a Dem, is really upset with his party.

Doug said...

Italian Catholic Arrested Selling Leeks.

Doug said...

Buddy,
If the Democrats disappear and are replaced by a Conservative Party, I'm all for it.

Doug said...

Yet Another Mass Grave Found!
This one filled with Democrats.
Scientists Find Preserved Dodo Bird Bones
"BBC News is reporting that a team of Dutch and Mauritian scientists have found what appears to be a mass dodo bird grave.

terrye said...

buddy:

That is just evil.

Buddy Larsen said...

I know, Terrye. I'm not proud of my feelings.
\;-D

Peter UK said...

Doug,
"The discovery was hailed as a breakthrough in the Netherlands."

Things kind of slow in Holland?

Doug said...

They're still Expecting
Tulip Mania 2.

Peter UK said...

Always the ones for extreme entertainment,the Dutch.BTW Did you see "Tulip Mania" I ?

Peter UK said...

It wouldn't hurt to run a geiger counter over this bloke!

"On the last day when I was speaking, one of our group told me that when I started to say 'Bismillah Muhammad', he saw a green light come from around me, and I was placed inside this aura," he says. "I felt it myself. I felt that the atmosphere suddenly changed, and for those 27 or 28 minutes, all the leaders of the world did not blink. When I say they didn't move an eyelid, I'm not exaggerating. They were looking as if a hand was holding them there, and had just opened their eyes - Alhamdulillah!"

Doug said...

THE NEW YORK TIMES STRIKES AGAIN
By Michelle Malkin · December 24, 2005 09:59 AM
'Twas the day before Christmas
And all through the Times
Hysteria reigned over
Bush's "impeachable crimes"...
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Michelle has LOTS of links here.

Doug said...

Peter,
Isn't that Prime Minister Farakahn?
Sounds like Muhammad' OD'ed on Bismuth.

Peter UK said...

Doug,
The man should be in a no glow area.

Buddy Larsen said...

Heh.