"…he belongs on Mt Rushmore."

Friday, December 16, 2005
The full quote, from Chris Matthews: "If he [Bush] gambled on creating a democracy in the Arab Middle East and he does it, he belongs on Mt Rushmore."

This in the context of a conversation in which howard Fineman said the NSA thing was no big deal, but the Iraqi elections are.

We live in interesting times.

34 comments:

Skookumchuk said...

Chris Matthews: Well, he's right. A clock stopped. Twice. In one day.

Buddy Larsen said...

Zell Miller must be nearby, with his dueling pistoles.

Syl said...

Chris is really so appalled that someone (Bush) would take a chance like this.

But when he ponders the (possible) result of Bush's policies, he does find it inspirational, exhilerating, and breathtaking.

Then Matthews usually falls back into the 'It will never wokr' camp.

But, indeed, there are moments of wide-eyed wonder.

Buddy Larsen said...

Syl, it could be just gas.

clarice said...

Amazing. I still think he's a stupid hack and I hope MSNBC goes out of business and takes him with them.

He actually SAID that?

Pastorius said...

It isn't such an insane gamble as it seems, considering the American record. We have delivered Democracy to,

1) Ourselves

2) to the American South,

3) to Japan

4) Germany

5) the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.

Pretty good track record revealing the truth of the fundamental Western notion that all men are endowed with certain inalienable rights, among these life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

All human beings are created in the Image of God. Therefore, we are created to be free, reasonable, and creative. When we are given a chance to be so, we naturally respond.

Some will choose evil and bondage, but most will choose freedom.

That's the way it is.

Pastorius said...

Of course, it seems magical to a person who has no faith, such as Chris Matthews.

But, let me be clear, while it is not magical, it is wondrous, and it is beautiful to behold, and it does bring tears to one's eyes, doesn't it?

Buddy Larsen said...

Pastorius, good chills, lovely words and the things they mean. Yes, tears. The times they really are a-changing. It dawned on me today, it has been seven generations since the Civil War.

Rick Ballard said...

Better toss in the Phillipines and a number of central American countries from time to time. Panama all the time. Liberia sometimes.

Buddy Larsen said...

...and almost all freedom movements in the last two centuries that even without anything from America pulled it together drawing some degree of moral power from the crazy radical thing the Founders pulled off.

Seneca the Younger said...

As long as we're throwing these things in, add most all of Europe; after the Treaty of Vienna, people thought for a while that monarchy was the natural thing, but after the American Revolution and the French Revolution, it never stuck.

markg8 said...

Well the plan originally was to find the WMD, decapitate the Baathist leadership and plant someone like Chalabi atop the government and go home wasn't it? By July 2003 we were gonna have maybe 50,000 troops left in Iraq according to Rummy. Most would be home by the 4th of July. Iraq's oil revenues were going to pay for it's reconstruction according to Wolfowitz. The head of USAID told Ted Koppel the total cost to the US taxpayer for reconstruction like activites would be about $1.7 billion.

When Al Sistani put hundreds of thousands of people in the streets demanding free elections Bremer proposed the hairbrained caucus scheme. Sistani threatened a general uprising and Bush begged the UN to send the Arab who helped Afghanistanis organize their elections. That's how they got the system they have today.

George Bush didn't gamble on creating democracy in the Arab Middle East, he was pushed into it. As usual Chris Matthews doesn't know what he's talking about.

Buddy Larsen said...

Good cherry picking, mark, I see you're down to snuff as usual. And, hey, *THANKS* for pushing the prez into democratizing the mideast--he wouldn't've done it without you, you're right, your support made the difference, and you get all the credit!

markg8 said...

Don't thank me Buddy, thank Al Sistani the Iranian born cleric. BTW he's not as conservative as some would think. He believes anal sex between consenting married partners is ok. In his eyes marriages can be as short as an hour as long as the woman is properly compensated. Not sure what his views on abortion or gay marriage are. But maybe you can find it. He has his own website in English.

http://www.sistani.org/html/eng/

BTW I forget, what's the HTML tag for making a clickable link?

Buddy Larsen said...

Thanks for the pertinent info on Sistani.

use space then < then a then space then h then r then e then f then = then " then url then " then > then title then < then / then a then > then space

Seneca the Younger said...

Well the plan originally was to find the WMD, decapitate the Baathist leadership and plant someone like Chalabi atop the government and go home wasn't it?

Nope. Next?

Seneca the Younger said...

Mark --- the tag is an "anchor": Tag text.

Have a look at this cheat sheet, or check out the excellent w3schools tutorial site.

Seneca the Younger said...

Dammit. Stupid blogger.

<a href="http://hostname/path">tag text</a>

Peter UK said...

There has just been an historic democratic election in an Arab country,a first in a former totalitarian Middle East state.....and all Mark Garrity can think about is sodomy....really does shine a light on the priorities of the liberal mind.

Syl said...

Good grief people. Why are you bending over backwards to help this clown? I mean he's been banned from more blogs than I've ever even read. And he doesn't know how to make a clickable link yet?

Buddy Larsen said...

ha--"bending over backwards" for Mark on his Arab buggery report...chuckles, Syl.

Peter UK said...

"Why are you bending over backwards"

Because Syl,it is obviously safer then bending forewards.

Buddy Larsen said...

three things in his favor
1) no need to view DNC site for latest GWB smear, it comes to you here--so, 'convenience'.
2) I forgot what #2 was gonna be
3) sets up really funny Peter UK posts

clarice said...

Go Tell it on the Mountain http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=3950

Got you another plug for this wonderful blogsite and, in particular, this article.

markg8 said...

Syl you only read one blog? I've only been banned from one and that's Roger Simon's. What are you afraid of anyway? That I'll post clickable links that disturb your view of things? To quote the President I say let freedom rain.

Seneca the Younger said...

Good grief people. Why are you bending over backwards to help this clown?

'Cause we're better than he is, and he's amusing practice for if we ever get one of the well-paid trolls.

Peter UK said...

"That I'll post clickable links that disturb your view of things?"

Mark Garrity really does think he is doing missionary work here,how did you get into this missionary position Mark?

..and Mark you are telling porkies again..you were banned from DtP.

markg8 said...

Just came back to mention Dennis but ya beat me to it Petey, forgot all about him. Shame on me. LOL.

Peter UK said...

Mark Garrity, Your Probation Officer probably believes you, but I don't

markg8 said...

Petey frankly what you believe is irrelevant. Like there are no Sunnis in Iraq who might be willing to work with secularists. That's just stupid.

Peter UK said...

Mark,
Why bother replying then...just a small point,you are on the wrong thread..you need to cut back on the bong.

Buddy Larsen said...

Peter-"why reply, then?"--ar har har--

Clarice--I'm going to look--been meaning to read that site--(I'm so glad Anthony Hopkins didn't hurt you, BTW)

Mark, "reign", not "rain".

trangbang68 said...

so this is where missing Belmont Clubbers have been hiding.That Matthews is oblivious to the Bush gamble on democracy shows he's really clueless.Maybe if he shutup once in a while.

Buddy Larsen said...

Trangbang68--yes, but a new and very able generation is growing up under Wretchard's tutelege--and needs room to open up.