Tuesday, November 07, 2006

The Unchanging

The National Post at canada.com brings us Hot for Martyrdom. (ht: Don Dingleton via Maggie's Farm). A teaser but you should read it all...

Dr. Tawfik Hamid doesn't tell people where he lives. Not the street, not the city, not even the country. It's safer that way. It's only the letters of testimony from some of the highest intelligence officers in the Western world that enable him to move freely...

[H]e's determined to tell a complacent North America what he knows about fundamentalist Muslim imperialism...

"We're not talking about a fringe cult here," he tells me. "Salafist [fundamentalist] Islam is the dominant version of the religion and is taught in almost every Islamic university in the world. It is puritanical, extreme and does, yes, mean that women can be beaten, apostates killed and Jews called pigs and monkeys."

I can tell you what it is not about. Not about Israel, not about Iraq, not about Afghanistan. They are mere excuses. Algerian Muslim fundamentalists murdered 150,000 other Algerian Muslims, sometimes slitting the throats of children in front of their parents. Are you seriously telling me that this was because of Israel's treatment of the Palestinians or American foreign policy?"

He's exasperated now, visibly angry at what he sees as a willful Western foolishness. "Stop asking what you have done wrong. Stop it! They're slaughtering you like sheep and you still look within. You criticize your history, your institutions, your churches. Why can't you realize that it has nothing to do with what you have done but with what they want."



Update (StY): I want to make this a little more visible:
"Stop asking what you have done wrong. Stop it! They're slaughtering you like sheep and you still look within. You criticize your history, your institutions, your churches. Why can't you realize that it has nothing to do with what you have done but with what they want."

8 comments:

truepeers said...

Note the juxtapositions between sexual mores in this world and the next: "Islam condemns extra-marital sex as well as masturbation, which is also taught in the Christian tradition. But Islam also tells of unlimited sexual ecstasy in paradise with beautiful virgins for the martyr who gives his life for the faith. Don't for a moment underestimate this blinding passion or its influence on those who accept fundamentalism."

A pause. "I know. I was one who accepted it."

This partial explanation is shocking more for its banality than its horror. Mass murder provoked partly by simple lust. But it cannot be denied that letters written by suicide bombers frequently dwell on waiting virgins and sexual gratification.


And then there is Yusuf Qaradawi, who proclaims:
Female masturbation is more risky than male masturbation. Male masturbation is not as risky. Sometimes women insert finger, and some women insert objects that may be risky, especially since the hymen is very sensitive, and any playing with it may tear it. This might expose the woman to accusations. She may tell them this or that, but they will not believe her. They will think she must have had forbidden relations with some guys. This way, a person exposes himself to accusations of fornication, a woman might be accused of fornication. She will bring disgrace upon herself and her family. This will be a disaster, and some relatives might kill her"

So, to sum up, once you get to heaven you can mess with the virgins all you want, up there with Allah; but down here, any kind of messing with virginity gets girls killed.

Is this evidence of belief in God, or rather, in fact, of non-belief? If God and his ways are completely other to the people of this world, is Islam really a faith in anything but the human will to assert knowledge of God by proclaiming authoratative knowledge of what the holy texts mean, and only mean? This question is raised in an interesting article by Rebecca Bynum at New English Review.

Luther said...

It means being able to reach the four year olds. If we cannot insert influence to the young, somehow, in someway, this indeed, will be a very long war.

truepeers said...

What does it mean to win?

The final result of this conflict we cannot yet know; presently, it is more important to know what it is to be starting to win, i.e. converting more and more people to our world view by revealing the limits of the western left and of Islam.

Whether we are at war with all of Islam or whether this conflict will end with some kind of reformed and non-threatening Islam we cannot know until the question has really been forced on Muslims and they really must choose. They have to be engaged, they have to know with what we J-C Westerners can and cannot live, and then the choices and pieces will start to fall into place.

So it is a question of engaging any number of small and large battles and forcing people to respond to our terms for what it means to live according to the highest values of the West. When we see those values strengthened, i.e. renewed by this engagement and process of conversion, then we will know we are winning and when we know that we have been winning for some time, the more fundamental signs of our victory will come into sight.

But the very thing about history is that you cannot know where you are going when you first engage a conflict. You enter it as a matter of faith that you must to defend your freedom; and it is really only when the conflict is over that you begin to see what it was really all about. That is why we are still apt to invoke WWII symbols in this conflict, while the enemy invokes Vietnam.

Of course, what this really tells us is that when you fully understand and flesh-out a sign of victory, the power of that sign is at its end, as with Hegel's owl of Minerva: deconstruction=death of the sign, and of the market on which the sign's yet unknown full significance had turned. So, it's time for a new sign and market to emerge. That is what we are telling the old media, the old parties, and the old Mandarins in the bureaucracies and schools. When we force them to enter new markets on more or less our terms, we will know we are winning and then we will start to know what this means.

truepeers said...

IN other words, each time we engage a little or small battle, it leaves behind it a sign which, if positive, we seek to re-iterate over time. With each re-iteration we get a little closer to the full meaning of what our conflict is about and for. Every purple thumb, every imam who leaves Denmark for Lebanon, every convert to our side, every one who finds the courgae and stands up to defend women from Jihad rape, every unequivocal defense of Israel, every revelation of the idiocy of Dean and Kerry types, etc. etc., are signs to be re-iterated and reframed across time.

truepeers said...

Skook, another thing worth discussing is this: "right now we can't as a society even define what the word [to win] means, which does not augur well. The other side has a precise definition, which is always helpful.

-well the Western Left today has no idea what they are really about - just vague allusions to a better tomorrow and pervasive resentment of today's reality. The Islamists believe in a global caliphate and Sharia law but how precise a vision of the future is that? If we assume it would require the destruction of much of the freedom and science on which a global economy depends, then their Caliphascist vision will surely require a massive reduction in the planet's population and a return to medieval conditions. Do they have the foggiest idea what that will look like, which five out of every six must die to allow for global Sharia? I think the Islamists fight on faith, lacking a real vision, even more than do we.

We often hear that in WWII, the West knew what it was fighting for. Well, Churchill made it clear that we were fighting primarily for survival and freedom, not any more specific vision. FDR had trouble getting America to commit to the war until the end of '41 but even then his idea of a new world order based on the partnership of free nations in some new, post-colonial United Nations was not a very well-considered - because it was a somewhat utopian - plan, one that arguably did more to create power vacuums after the war instead of fully asserting American authority, the victor's justice (e.g. in China and Korea). FDR's "victory" arguably prolonged conflicts between totalitarianism and freedom, conflicts we are still working through today when only now it is becoming clear that the UN vision was not based on a realistic vision of humanity and its needs for order, at least once every postcolonial dictator was allowed to join.

So, to say that our present position - where we have only the promises of our good faith to guide us through dark times when old enemies die hard - is unusual, is not I think true. What we lack, perhaps, is only enough young people to indicate that we are a hopeful, future-oriented people.

truepeers said...

how does the West - and our concept of the West - win when we are so divided ourselves?

-our division is understandable, no intellectually insumountable mystery: it's between those who want to remain within the post-WWII dispensation (postcolonial "white" guilt, UNutopia, etc.) and those who want to move on. Things change, inevitably, as conflicts grow and must be worked thrugh. In time, more will want ot move on as the implications of resenting "daddy" and assuming an omnipotent "save the world from daddy" attitude are seen eventually not to be without consequences (the smug assumption that daddy will remain in charge whatever the adolescents rant), but a path to Burkahood, etc.. But it's a real intellectual struggle for so many to get into the new post-white guilt paradigm when they live comfortable guilty lives and get promised governmental favors by white guilt parties. Reality has its ways of breaking through, however. We must be patient and ready to win converts when the moment arises.

But establishing the universality of the caliphate is enough to motivate many and to cause great harm, for as far in to the future as we can see.

-so we have to change the horizon, and make clear to all involved that we know we are fighting a deadly fantasy ideology, deadly for everyone; that's why engagement of the conflict with leaders ready to set new terms is so important. However, it may be that we will have to wait a while for the old school of white guilt completely to consume its legacy with the help of those Islamic forces that are highly parasitic on it. Let them destroy the remnants of the old order; some of us will be waiting in the wings when their futility is evident for all to see.

truepeers said...

Snook,

Maybe you're right, maybe if Bush had been highly aggressive in pushing his new doctrine - e.g. cleaning out the old school in the State D., CIA, etc.; providing a very strong rhetorical rebuttal to the MSM; promoting new media and education; and just saying no to the Palestinian terrorists, instead of sending them Condi to compare them to the US founding fathers; making clear who is going to rule in Lebanon, Iran, etc. - it might just have been too much too soon. THe rest of the world might well have gone completely bonkers. The imperialists who would sacrifice nations - i.e. humbly realistic self-ruling polities - to their fantasy ideologies or Eurabia, etc., are just too numerous and so the unveiling of the GNostic lie must be corresponsdingly unmistakable.

Maybe people really do need to see in the starkest terms what we can already sense are the implications of appeasing and feeding the Jihadist fantasy. Selling a new revelation is always a tricky business, requiring communications mastery and so it usually only happens when the crisis is widely evident. Maybe, but no excuse for us not to continue trying to change minds short of nuclear war.

I have often thought it will require civil war in much of Europe for the tide truly to change. How far off is that now? In a way, maybe this US election will diminish the anti-American rhetoric in Europe and strengthen those who want to sober up and face up to their own national challenges for what they are. WIll that quicken of dampen the trends towards civil war?

truepeers said...

Sure, if you had to lay a bet, you'd have to say Israel is less likely to survive than England or France, wouldn't you agree? The left positively want to give Israel up and they turn a blind eye to, e.g, Egyptian military build up in that direction. But if Israel goes under, that won't sate the Jihad in Europe and elsewhere and the American left will then have to come up with a new strategy if they wish to continue being heard in public without risking being strung up as traitors.