I'm glad there are good folks like Rick, Clarice, Syl, and others willing to try and sort this thing out. I can't imagine how y'all get through it without massive headaches. BTW, just out of curiosity I decided to look up the Board of Trustees for the Aspen Institute. It's a pretty interesting list. Not that I have a clue who most of them are but I don't think there are many Friends of Dubya there (and some who clearly aren't).
"I don't think there are many Friends of Dubya there"Many? I suspect there are none. My guess is that all the members are either Democrats or "realistic" Republicans. A conservative would likely always feel ill at ease. I've always considered the Plame nonsense to be nothing less then an attempt to destroy the Bush administration. A book should be dedicated to this plot.
DT,Subtract Bush from the equation. There were certainly political motivations and aspects to this but just set them aside. The answer to cui bono with Bush subtracted turns to the oil tick princes. Wilson was parked in an Arab funded little nest when this came about. Scowcroft and others? How much would one think that it costs to buy a journo or two?Iraq has not (to my knowledge) rejoined OPEC. I don't know if there is more going on but I'm beginning to seriously doubt that it is just party politics. It has never really made political sense in the first place. The Dems aren't going to be rewarded for being Copperheads.
Rick,Back when "the runup to war" was happening I argued that the behavior of UN in general and France and Russia in particular made no sense as pure politics - that there HAD to be serious money at work buying that behavior. There were ways they could have gone about getting at their stated goal of "preventing war" yet they clung relentlessly to simply shrieking about it. It was pretty darned clear that the he who was paying the piper was calling the tune. I just cannot find any sense in this Plameblame stuff that holds up to scrutiny. It is well demonstrated that the MSM and the various bits and pieces of the Left can conjure up no end of ways to relentlessly hammer at the administration. When they keep on pounding drums that clearly have big holes in them it just might be a sign that there's a paymaster in charge of the drummers.
Among the members of the Aspen Strategy Group, in addition to Judith Miller and Amritage, are Paul Wolfowitz, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Condoleezza Rice, and a certain Richard B. Cheney.link
Flenser,There is absolutely nothing shadowy about the Aspen Group - it's a setup for the powerful in DC to fraternize - exchange views and business cards. The names you list are emeritus members. The current Republican members of interest are Brownback, Hagel and Lugar. There is also a long PDF at the site on the ME. It was compiled as a result of a get together in August '03 - a month after Wilson's editorial. It's not very good but there are some interesting parts that I may write about.As I noted in the article - just oily realists.
Excellent, Rick. Sorry I got around to it so late. That site is hard for me to read, I'm afraid, so I put it off.It's fine for someone like Kristoff to advocate for a certain POV and to cultivate and be cultivated by certain sources.It just feels wrong that readers are never made of aware of the identities and connections of those sources.In fact, I think many readers believe people such as Kristoff come to their beliefs soley through their own devices and independent thought.So it's always good to get some insight into the voices and agendas behind the pieces. Of course this holds true for absolutely everything we see in print these days.
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