Thursday, July 27, 2006

The Race

Fjordman provides a bleak yet trenchant observation concerning the probability of Muslim ascendancy in Europe:
The less control the authorities have with Muslims, the more control they want to exercise over non-Muslims. As problems in Europe get worse, which they will, the EU will move in an increasingly repressive direction until it either becomes a true, totalitarian entity or falls apart. This strange mix of powerful censorship of public debate, yet little control over public law and order, has by some been labelled anarcho-tyranny.
Do the socialist ninnies currently in power in a number of European countries truly believe that their multicultural transnationalism will save them from the sword?

Fjordman is certainly on the mark with his observation concerning the First and Second Amendments. Being able to seperate the Islamic savages from the tepid moderates and to explain clearly that their murderous acts are entirely consonant with a religion developed for tyrants and slaves allows one to maintain clarity when considering the appropriate level of distrust required to deal with them. Cobras are far more trustworthy.

19 comments:

cf said...

I think this is absolutely the most important article I read all day, Rick. I have been watching this phenomenon develop over the last 2 years. Maybe we ought to run arms in to the EU..or help the right learn how to win elections, starting with assistance to bloggers there who are far behind us.

I cannot find fault with Fjordman's article at all.

Rick Ballard said...

He's been doing some pieces at Gates of Vienna that are excellent. I really don't care if a tranzi wants to have his throat cut for multiculturalist ideals but putting people in jail for calling rabid rats rats - with the justification that you might offend the rat - is incredible.

Apparently indoctrination functions better in Europe than it does here.

Anonymous said...

Rick:

Apparently indoctrination functions better in Europe than it does here.

This belief in a single, coercively enforced unifying doctrine to govern all of European beliefs, laws, and morality goes back a long way - at least as far back as the respublica christiana of the High Medieval Papacy.

Trasnational progressivism is but the latest in the long line. It is however pretty thin gruel in comparison to the earliest such attempt and so we are apt to question its staying power. Especially today, in the face of the obvious Islamic challenge, something the founders of the EU experiment could not envision.

The problem is that Europeans have lost the emotional and moral vocabulary we use to define and sustain concepts like individual freedom and civic responsibility. They had given responsibility for all that to their new God who has suddenly failed. Now what?

Rick Ballard said...

"Now what?"

They get to play Eloi and Morlock for a while? A child mentions that the socialist emperor is not just naked - he's been dead for years and really stinks the place up?

I suppose that eventually the 35% of the populace necessary to effect postive change might wake up but there is little sign of awakening at this point. What does come after nihilism? Only the absolute security and peace of the grave as far as I can see.

cf said...

There is a far smaller alternative media in Europe; the laws on free speech far slimmer; the Brussels mandarinate has been encroaching on free speecha nd action more every day; and Europeans are more accepting of the myriad ways regulators control their lives.

Can we help them? Can we set up some other way of getting thru to Europeans past the state sponsored and leftist press there?(A sort of Internet Free Europe)

Unknown said...

I read the book the Planet of the Apes by Pierre Boulle years ago, and the thing that struck me the most about the book was that the people did not fight back. They just let the Apes have it all. I have wondered if the author saw something in European culture in the 60's, a denial of reality that inhibited them and ultimately emasculated the entire culture.

I have a client who is a quad. He is very into sports and movies, anything that might distract him...but his knee jerk reaction to bad news or threat is that it is not there. I think it is a defensive mechanism.

Europe spent so many centuries in war and extremism that sometimes I wonder if they are like that, they just refuse to see the threat. They can not bear the conflict, like the children of alcholics they will go to great lengths to avoid confrontation.

So perhaps the culprit is a combination of guilt and fear and avoidance.

Anonymous said...

David Thompson:

George W. Bush is the true threat to world peace and not Osama bin Ladin and his buddies. Socialist domination will supposedly bring about utopia.

Your first sentence is certainly true. But I wonder about the second. Maybe as little as ten years ago, perhaps, it was a deeply held belief, but today I wonder if even the elites have the same self-confidence as did the architects of the system, or if the whole thing is just running out of steam.

Of course, European elites have been terrified of America and its potential to disrupt the established order since just before the Revolution. So the early EUtopians certainly saw the threat posed by America, the anti-Europe, and they said so, but thought that through ever closer union they could fend off the rapacious parvenu Americans and simultaneously provide a socialist paradise on earth.

Forget the Islamofascist challenge for the moment. Today every senient person in Europe has at the back of his mind not only the Americans to worry about as always, but also a few billion entrepreneurial Chinese and Indians. And ignoring that triple whammy is a very tall order. They don't seem up to it. They just want to be left alone. Let the neighborhood go to pieces. They'll stay inside, among the bric-a-brac and the doilies on the furniture, maybe venturing out to the mailbox every now and then to collect a check.

The question for us is - how do we deal with the failure of Europe?

Unknown said...

david:

I am not so sure they think that. I mean I think that the Europeans believe that if we do away with greed and want the Islamists will still be what they are, but they will be it somewhere else. They will stay in their nasty little world and leave the Euros alone, just don'get them worked up. Like they were animals in a zoo or something.

I am sure they know what Iranians do to gays, but they don't live in Iran so what do they care?

Unknown said...

skook:

Yes, that is it. They are afraid.

Look at those pictures of WW2 and we see why. Most of the Europeans alive today did not see that war, but I think there is something akin to genetic memory at work here, they really do want to be left alone. No more they say, no more.

Anonymous said...

Terrye:

Yes, they are afraid. No longer believing in the old and afraid of the new.

A long time ago in my history classes some professor or other would hypothesize about the So-and-So Culture, which about 800 BC seems to have abandoned their old religion and taken up something new.

And there would always be some utterly superfluous, tidy materialistic explanation like a series of crop failures evidenced by the tree rings or their living on the fringes of some powerful empire, or to enhanced economic status by adopting the new religion. The kinds of simpleminded causes that people who find the religious experience totally alien tend to dream up.

Well today in Europe we are seeing the collapse of the old and its substitution by the new right before our eyes. A rare event, like a supernova. We might learn a thing or two.

Anonymous said...

Peter UK:

So in the UK (which is where I assume you are) how might the broad middle stratum of Britons in the end react to all this? What are the alternatives as you see them?

David Thomson:

This fervent secular belief is similar to religious fanaticism.

True. My question is how long can it last.

cf said...

PUK, what a well thought out post.

Rick Ballard said...

Peter,

What a horribly great synopsis. I keep trying to tell myself that it can't happen here - and then I see Hillary's picture.

Anonymous said...

Peter UK:

Other than that,when Middle England has gone...

Is the demise of Middle England inevitable?

Anonymous said...

Peter UK:

I hope you Americans take heed...

More than a few of us are. But just hop on the Boeing whenever you can. Also, as we did with the old London Bridge, we can always disassemble Salisbury Cathedral and all the buildings on Princes Street in Edinburgh and bring them over here in advance of their desecration.

I shouldn't be flippant. If Middle England doesn't recover, it would be a profound tragedy that will affect us all. Just the most casual conversations on this board has us talking about Scottish Enlightenment philosophers and De Havilland Mosquitos and all the other things that Britain means to us.

But as an American, personally I must say that Middle England is welcome over here.

Should it come to that.

Though it seems that many UK emigrants would want to seek a middle ground, someplace somewhat socialistic yet also truer to the old core principles - Australia, perhaps.

Anonymous said...

David Thomson:

-they will move out of the country.

But where to?

Anonymous said...

Although:

Edinburgh Castle rebuilt stone by stone just outside of, oh, I don't know, Nampa, Idaho?

A finally completed Beauvais Cathedral now with air conditioning cooking in the Tucson sun?

The Domino's Leaning Tower of Pizza (we'd have to rename it, you see) on Virginia Street in Reno? There is probably a vacant lot down on the south end, out past the Peppermill Casino someplace.

Imagine the possibilities. :-)

Luther said...

Late to the thread. But, just have to say;

Excellent and well done appraisal PeterUK.

Depressing, frankly, much like Fjordman's thesis, even with your different take.

But better to face reality than to live in a dreamworld. I must admit to fearing for our future.

And, Peter, you would get used to the 'dry heat' of Tucson.

MeaninglessHotAir said...

I hope you Americans take heed it has taken a mere sixty years to pull down the work of centuries.

A Polish friend once told me: "civilization is only one generation deep".