Classical Values :: From rampant slut culture to old-fashioned feminism?

Sunday, March 25, 2007
Classical Values :: From rampant slut culture to old-fashioned feminism?: "I couldn't agree more with Glenn that if the slut culture goes away, the terrorists will have won. In the medieval terrorist mindset, making women cover themselves is inextricably intertwined with considering all women to be sluts. Seen this way, slut culture is at once modern and civilized -- an act of brazen defiance against terrorism."

14 comments:

Sissy Willis said...

Raw meat happens. :-)

Peter UK said...

I will fight to the death for my sluts,but the jihad can have the feminists.

Barry Dauphin said...

Well, yes and no. I certainly believe in the freedoms that enable the "slut culture". And I have no interest in government prohibiting it. However, simply defining one's culture in opposition to jihadism (or anything else for that matter) does not make for a great culture. My concern is a narrowness in thinking that is illustrated by the if such and such disappears, the terrorists will have won. Sure it's a great joke, but I'll bet Glenn wouldn't be too happy to see his young daughter come home from school dressed like a hooker. I believe we cannot focus so heavily in defining our culture in the negative (i.e., against jihadism), even though that is part of defining ourselves.

Knucklehead said...

What Barry said!

Syl said...

but I'll bet Glenn wouldn't be too happy to see his young daughter come home from school dressed like a hooker.

Oh please.

The hookers are just going to have to find something else to wear.

chuck said...

but I'll bet Glenn wouldn't be too happy to see his young daughter come home from school dressed like a hooker.

It's when she comes home with the motorcycle dude ten years older than she is, said dude wearing leather, colors, and riding a chopper, that Glen might begin to worry a bit. Especially when the new dude dispenses that ancient bit of folk wisdom, "old enough to bleed, old enough to butcher".

Barry Dauphin said...

Oh please
So it's anything goes for 10 yr. olds? It's interesting that a strong endorsement of liberty isn't enough. I guess we should all be cheerleaders for everything that the freedoms allow.

Syl said...

I just can't stand the phrase 'looks like a hooker'.

As if what you wear is who you are.

Buddy Larsen said...

I'm with Barry. Fashion displays aspiration.

Syl said...

Fashion displays aspiration.

LOL

I guess I aspired to be a farmer by wearing jeans.

Syl said...

I think it's interesting that in Puerto Rican culture the girls can dress 'like hookers' and flaunt their stuff while walking down the street. But nobody dares touch them because their brothers will protect them.

The girls feel safe and are safe.

Americans tend to think otherwise about Puerto Rican girls because they don't know the tight and strict rules in the family about the girls actually having sex.

Those girls are teases but aren't looking for anything.

It just makes me think there is a better solution to the problem than being appalled at how someone dresses.

If your daughter is *really* on the make, what she wears makes little difference.

Buddy said...

well, okay syl, good defense. But you still have to draw the line somewhere. What if your daughters are perfectly innocent nudists and want to go for a midnight walk in Central Park?

Buddy said...

Blogger calls me 'buddy' sometimes, and then adds my last name other times. Whatz the matter wif da damn thang i wonder.

Barry Dauphin said...

I wasn't trying to justify boorish or assaultive behavior by men or suggesting that one is as one dresses, although I could have communicated myself better. I was trying to point out that being over-enthusiastic about the "slut culture" with an in your face, jihadist attitude is hardly the best that America has to offer. It exemplifies our freedoms, and people have the freedom to do much of what they please (thank you, Constitution). That does not mean (for me at least) that we want to gloat at how much "better" we are by holding up Brittney Spears and K-Fed as the ultimate flower of humanity produced by liberal democracies with market economies. The true measure of our system is that we tolerate them, not worship them (and yes I know some people do worship them while simultaeously taking glee in their troubles).