No way. It would be impossible to sell Israeli membership to the Europeans. Heck, you can't even sell it to me. NATO was for European defense against Russia and now serves the European idea by uniting their militaries and giving legitimacy to such as the Germans. But who would we defend Israel against? All comers? Is it in our interest to tie ourselves to Israeli foreign policy? I don't think so. Cooperation is one thing, especially when there may be mutual interests. But defense treaties are something else and entirely too binding and inflexible. I would go further and say that the best arrangements in an unstable and quickly changing world are short term coalitions, as happened after the tsunami with Australia, Japan, and the US. Such coalitions are far more flexible and adaptable.
"Is it in our interest to tie ourselves to Israeli foreign policy?"Yes, most definitely. Why wouldn’t it be? The new world realities make the old US-European limited coalition obsolete. This is especially true if the Old Europeans want to save their own societies. Uniting with Israel in this particular matter would send a clear message to the islamic nihilists. I will go one step further: this may be the last chance for the anti-Israeli EU nations to save themselves.
Yes, most definitely.Israel does not serve US interests, it serves its own. From selling arms to potential US enemies to putting settlements in the West Bank, I have many bones to pick with Israeli policies. Besides, Israel has more in common with the left-wing nutcases of Europe than with the US. It would be a major mistake, IMHO, to tie ourselves unconditionally to their defense.
The idea of Israel joining NATO seems preposterous. The Euros will never have it for one thing. For another thing NATO was designed long ago and far away for days gone by. Rube Goldberging it into a different sort of mouse trap is an exercise in futility. It has had some vague political benefits in the decade and a half since the Warsaw Pact crumbled but that value is fading. I'd rather see the US just let NATO whither. The EU nations are large and wealthy enough to provide for their own defense (or not as they see fit).I'd rather see the US working on developing an appropriate Pacific and Indian Ocean treaty organization.
“The idea of Israel joining NATO seems preposterous.”NATO, tomato, or potato. The organization per se doesn't really matter. The old Europeans needs to send a clear message to the Islamic nihilists. A great way of accomplishing this goal is to formally align themselves with the “fascist” state of Israel. This would be a mind blowing announcement. Sometimes the symbolism is at least as important as the reality.
I'm afraid I don't go to Roger's anymore. Too frustrating not being able to comment.
Why can you not comment Syl?
When I hit submit, a page comes up saying I'm not registered or something. It's not a typekey thing. I've dropped a note to Roger through the form twice--but nothing.
I'll note it was complewtely unthinkable that Poland would be in NATO too.
SylI had that same problem on my Win2000/IE6 platform. I never did resolve it, but it does not happen with my other OS/browser combos.
SylI had that problem for a while myself. Eventually, for no rhyme nor reason, it cleared itself up. Just keep trying now and again.
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