Thank you for the illustration. The mass media isn't interested in explaining stuff to us, the "masses," so I have to rely on people like you to supply basic info.
Happy to help. You can see more at the Wikipedia article on "buckshot" --- whch is, by the way, the really big stuff on the bottom row.
I got a kick out of something I heard from the MSM about how Whittington had been peppered with "BB" sized pellets. I couldn't help thinking, "Well, there's a guy who has never held a BB or birdshot. He was 'peppered' with coarsely ground pepper sized pellets." Its like an earth vs. moon size comparison.
Well, I've never been hit with birdshot, but I did get hit in the forehead with a BB once. Bled like a mother, but no stitches were required. Didn't even hurt all that much as I recall.==================My new theory on the press is they lack two things fundamentally: (1) critical thinking skills; and (2) complete lack of proportion.Abu Ghraib = human beings fed into woodchippers. Check.Guantanomo Bay = the Soviet gulag. Check.Failure to notify the press for 18 hours = failure to notify the authorities. Check.Birdshot = buckshot. Check.If you can't do the basic research to understand the mere outlines of your subject, how can I trust you to (a) explain it to me and (b) assign it appropriate news value?
If you can't do the basic research to understand the mere outlines of your subject, how can I trust you to (a) explain it to me and (b) assign it appropriate news value?And yet, somehow, we just keep right on buying their newspapers and watching their TV programs, don't we.
MHA,I'm pretty much boycotted out when it comes to their newspapers, magazines, and TV shows. I get one newspaper to try and follow local news a little bit, I watch about an hour or so of FNC and local news per evening/night, and other than that only History Channel, bits and pieces of movies, some sports (can NBC's Olympic coverage be any worse?), Discovery and occasionally PBS. There just isn't a whole lot of less attention to the bastids available to me and I can't send them any less money.
It sounds like knuck and I have the same viewing habits. I spend more time watching A&E and the History Channel than I do the news.Once again we see what happens when some vain pompous talking head starts yammering on about something he/she knows nothing about.They are really bad at hands on stuff, like military matters or farming or hunting or search and rescue. They also suck at science most of the time...They are really in their element when they talk about corruption and sex scandals. After all, that is their area of expertise.
I proudly no longer read newspapers....I get my info online....lol
Shame,Steve Martin used to be a funny man.
Oh, goddammit, Mark, I thought that Steve Martin thing was really pretty funny. Now, because we've banned yu, I've got to copy the link before I send your post screaming into the nether regions.
Terrye,You forgot to mention that they are generally innumerate also. I still can't believe that the Columbia School of Journalism is all about a Master of Science degree. Can anyone tell me what the "science" of journalism is? These idiots don't know a BB from birdshot or a rifle from a shotgun or even that dying is more serious that getting peppered with birdshot. Yet they walk around with Master of Science degrees?
Knuckle--I have a B.S. in journalism myself, and I can assure you it doesn't stand for bachelor of science.Actually, it isn't in J-school where these minds are corrupted. Most J-school classes are apolitical and more tradecraft-oriented. Some of the school newspapers are hothouses of leftist thought, though that isn't the problem either.The problem is the rest of their university educations. These people (I wouldn't call them "professionals") never develop critical thinking skills, wouldn't know a bandwagon fallacy from ad hominem circumstantial, and believe tolerance--what Aristotle defined as one of the five minor virtues--is the single-most important personality trait.Let's not even talk about their lack of science, math, chemistry and other useful knowledge. If you can't think for yourself, how can write for the putative 8th grader who reads newspapers?
Here's a fun little article by Thomas Sowell at RCP, Spoiled Brat Media.It is not long and worth reading as is pretty much Mr. Sowell writes. Here is a snippet: The media love to wrap themselves in the mantle of "the public's right to know" but there is no such dedication to that right when it goes against the journalists' own prejudices.The public's right to know what a "partial birth abortion" is has been consistently disregarded for years by whole networks, even when they have given wide coverage to abortion controversies. Whatever your position on abortions, you need to know what you are talking about but the media recognize no such "right to know."If you knew, you might not agree with them.The same journalists who used phony documents to attack President Bush's military service recognize no "right to know" why Senator John Kerry's honorable discharge is dated long after his service was over and during the Carter administration, when less than honorable discharges were allowed to be upgraded to honorable.The "public's right to know" apparently extends only to such things as will not cause the public to reach conclusions different from those of the liberal media.
The plot thickens!
I think it is a lot like college campuses. Peer pressure. Certain attitudes make it easier to get along.But I know that when I was farming those of us who actually made a living in agriculture would talk about how difficult it was to take the press seriously. They just did not know what they were talking about.Except for the Ag guys who worked for the magazines and periodicals that farmers read. But I am talking about the national news. TV created a lot of mediocre journalists.
Sowell snip is very good. He could've mentioned that the previous administration is the modern gold-standard for secrecy. But, since it was so often involved in criminal activity, I guess it had a reason.
one of the things that astound me is, as you all have pointed out, just how damned stupid the American media is--it is basic things like being unable to understand statistics, being able to distinguish between self propelled howitzers and tanks, not know that buck shot is bigger than bird shot, that the Vice President is an independently elected offical and DOESNT work at the pleasure of the President--I mean, folk, this is stupidity on a GRAND scale. Lets take the late Peter Jennings as a case in point--This dumb SOB, even though he had GREAT hair, failed to graduate from high school--thats right--HIGH SCHOOL--and somehow he is considered capable of pontification? That encapsulates the American MSM.
RogerA,They also did not know the difference between a missile and an artillery shell,as was shown by the recent New York Times debacle.What is of concern is that they don't think that it matters,that entire stories can be build on completely erroneous detail is outrageous.
What is of concern is that they don't think that it matters,that entire stories can be build on completely erroneous detail is outrageous.What is of even greater concern is: how long has this been going on?
Since Walter Cronkite's Tet Offensive.
MHA,I surmise from the very outset,but initially the press were at least on the right side and not some quasi-autonomous separate nation state which defined itself as morally and politically neutral.There seems to be some delusion amongst journalists,unknown in 1939-45,that somehow the America that is at war is not the America that they inhabit,your deadly enemy is not their bitter foe,they are immune from any destruction of morale and security wrought on country ,kith and kin.
Peter,That's the part that really gets my goat. Just who do these people think they are! Many of the people who think they are immune by virtue of their years of "neutrality" will be the first to have their necks sawed off.
I've written at Roger's place that I'm the son of parents who were awarded journalism degrees. They spent a considerable amount of their little leisure time during my formative years in reading out loud to one another with amusement, contempt and even occaisionally rage the newspapers of the day. I knew quote and unquote before I knew that " meant one and then the other.We were encouraged to read everything we could get our hands on and we were allowed to watch all the rotten television we cared to and we were encouraged to form our own opinions and if they led to a sustainable argument so much the better.I could wish there were more talented editors about, but otherwise, the enormous quantity of available (mis-)information and the speed of its transmition is all that's different. Well, I sometimes wonder if we're all discontents (as opposed to society) now.I'm here at your pleasure.Patrick Tyson
...poor spelling and all.
The "comment deleted" posts remind me of the numerous little brown streaks I sometimes see on Chicago sidewalks. You know what was there, even if it's gone now.Thanks for keeping the turds off our stomping grounds!
Patrick:I think we should be careful when we go after journalists to remember that many of them really are dedicated and intelligent people.It is just too easy to paint them with the same brush. Blame it on TV.
MHA"Many of the people who think they are immune by virtue of their years of "neutrality" will be the first to have their necks sawed off."Yes ,there is always a silver lining to everything.
"Keep it up, the longer you dwell on the Veep tromping around Texas fields with a bunch of other geezers with guns the happier Chuck Schumer and I are."Yes Chuck Schumer,who one said of Markg8 "WTF is that?"
This says it all about the MSM and the Democrats
Don't anybody be in too big a hurry to check out Peter's link -- it's to a very short Powerline post concerning what has been happening to the families and soldiers who happen to've countered--or tried to--Cindy Sheehanism.
Buddy,Sharpton,Jackson and Chavez,does Sheehan have them tattooed on her thigh like bombing missions?
Check this out....pretty funny.
Here is Mr Whittington himself
You should try it Markg8.
Mr. Whittington did himself, his generation, and his state very proud with his humble words.
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