Bush is going to destroy something, and there are a few options, the Republican Party certainly being one of them.
He could destroy the world (his Mars astrocatography line is in the ME, and maybe he 'projects' a nuclear bomb there), he could destroy himself with the bottle (Cancer ingress of Saturn in his 12th), he could destroy the Democratic Party by their fellated ways (south node conjunct the Dems pro. Sun), he could destroy the USA as we've known it (GOP/USA/Bush sun conjunct transited by Varuna/Saturn), into some sort of dictoral regime.
Basically, the guys got a competitive timebomb ticking up his butt, and he's gonna shit it out on someone, or explode (because he certainly isn't up to transforming-- though a transmigration is possible), Lincoln too was 57, and they may be the bookends of the neptunian play.
The Republican Party having their Varuna conjunct Bush's South node, which Pluto is going to transit, certainly means they are fair game for the Dems progressed Sun to eliminate (or vis versa).
Yes, a moderate party is a strong possibility. I had thought for some time that the Uranus transit across the USA's moon protended such a thing. Uranus at 25 Aquarius right now, the USA Moon at 27'12, that could spark some sort of "independence" movement in the US Senate (where I think it may have to begin).
The strong undercurrent to remember here, is that Bush and the Republicans have the US under a Neptunian spell, and that will break at some point-- and the indications are that it's before the 2004 elections. Posted by: jerome on December 11, 2002 09:34 PM
Both, and we'll have to see which comes out ahead.
On the mutual reception of Neptune and Uranus, I've been thinking alot lately of the conjunction of these two in Capricorn that happened about a decade ago, and we need to begin there to understand what's unfolding from that cyclycal impetus. And if you'll recall, Saturn conjuncted those two planets as well there-- the mundane trifecta of this era.
I want to look in-depth at this transit of Saturn, which is in perhelion as it blasts through the USA's bucket, as it first opposses that Capricorn conjunction point, then Neptune, and then finally Uranus by 2008. We can see form being given to the impetus, but also the old ways try and hold back change.
As I pointed out in the "USA & 2003" thread, it seems now that the Uranus conjunct the USA's Moon has to do with returning freedom to the people, with power, via the internet, which is really coming into form now.
It's not a stretch to trace the whole internet back to the Uranus/Neptune conjunction in Capricorn, most of the reading there, it being in Capricorn, related it to business, and that's definetely occurred with Saturn, and quickly; but Uranus and Neptune have a different agenda.
This medium is in the very earliest stage of development. Typed-script is likely to give way to spoken-word, and then real-time face debate and intercourse, that's the freedom path we are headed toward.There is a shadow to this happening, isn't it odd that the internet grew out of the military?
Yep, I would consider that Uranus in Pisces gives another chance to nip this in the bud before it goes down that path again.
You ever read William Irwin Thompson? He talks about how, when the new forms of communication break out, the fundamentalist will attempt to hijack them, and use them to attempt to remain in power. I can't find the article online, but a reference to it below, isn't that an apt description of the Republicans attempt to "Use the War to Take Back the Culture" strategy?
Ventura, Michael. 1986. "Over the Edge of History with William Irwin Thompson." Utne Reader. June/July. Excerpted from the Los Angeles Weekly December 13, 1985.
http://progressiveliving.org/DEMCAP.htm
"So I don't think the fundamentalists are going to stop anything. They can't, in fact, because fundamentalists tend to encourage their opposites. They're afraid of getting caught with the old technology, so they fling themselves into the new technology, hoping they can control it with their old ideology...."Link. HT: Llama Butchers.
Posted by: Jerome on December 18, 2002 10:57 AM
*The thing speaks for itself.
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That's the other DailyKos partner, writing just before he became a powerful leader of the modern Democratic Party.
Makes me think of the relationship between Star Trek and toilet paper, both of which circle Uranus wiping out Klingons.
I knew we'd get there, I just didn't know how long it would take. Actually, Jerome faces the same difficulty as all astrologers do when it is pointed out to them that Pluto is rising in Uranus.
Reminds me of the switch-wiring discussion. Wanted to offer, you can put all three wires in your mouth, and get plenty of light from Uranus.
I mean, Tycho Brahe and Johannes Kepler could kick them around the block.
It's the silver nose that I miss. If one of these guys would get their nose cut off in a duel and wear a functional bit of jewelry in its place I would be much impressed. Body piercing is for kidz.
Hoooooooooly crap. [smacks forhead]
I knew I should have paid more attention to that horoscope section in my local daily noooooospaper.
If I hadn't read this guy, I might have been relegated to history, law and political science, with a bit of business and philosophy thrown in.
Yeh, old Kepler actually figured out the harmonics of the solar system, and figured out the sound it's making as the units spin in orbit.
Maybe Mark Warner could get his advisor to moog it and play it at rallies, and truthfully claim that the whole world is already humming along.
vnjagvet, if you want to pursue the story--and it IS fun--instapundit has collected some great articles here (the links down near bottom get into the record of this Kos co-partner & new Dem philosopher).
Buddy:
Thanks for the link.
That'd mean the sober world is that damn magic broom--
Skook,
WRT Warner - yep. Not the top man but Warner's link to the nutroots.
Next time you guys think I'm being a little overconfident - remember this.
BTW - it was The New Republic and the NYT who put the hatchet in the guys back. Miz Clinton doesn't need any competition for '08, thank you very much.
vnjagvet--you bet--you'll see the pattern here, soon enough. The guy was a small-fry net-fraudster (according to the SEC) in the infamous dot-com bubble, and seems to've gotten interested in politics only about the age of 40-something, or about the time that SEC shut him down, and the net came along as a conduit for political contribution$. Yawn, right?
Rick, next you feel confident about not being overconfident, remember the Kerry 48%. In fact you should write it on a post-it and stick it on your monitor.
NYT has signaled war on the left-blogs, offering a clue in the mystery of whiter cash or ideology.
'whither', tho there's a case for 'whiter' too.
The amazing thing is that they poll as high as they do.
Rick, if all those pissy Republicans stay home over earmarks and immigration these guys could win by default.
" . . . when the new forms of communication break out, the fundamentalist will attempt to hijack them, and use them to attempt to remain in power . . .
"They're afraid of getting caught with the old technology, so they fling themselves into the new technology, hoping they can control it with their old ideology . . ."
The old boy is projecting again.
Oh my. That guy wrote that?
Of course, In my time working for Barnes & Noble, the Astrology books always sold well.
When the Weekly World News ran the headline "Nostradamus Predicts Outcome of O.J. Trial", I cut it out, put it up on an end cap, (the end of the book stands) and surrounded it with Nostradamus books. We sold a lot of them that week.
Heh.
The kicker, it was six months after the trial ended! (rim shot)
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