Friday, October 28, 2005

Let's Pretend

...this will just go away if we don't pay too much attention to it:
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, cheered by thousands of supporters, signalled on Friday he stood by his call for Israel to be wiped off the map, while Iran's foreign ministry sought to defuse a diplomatic storm.

After all, Bill Clinton successfully pretended Osama Bin Laden wouldn't do any serious harm to our country, and it worked, more or less, through the full eight years of his two terms in office.

Besides, maybe they will only destroy Israel, and will stop there.

(Once you start pretending, it's hard to stop.)


Note: Please see also ContraryPelican, below.


citizen_us said...

I think one of the most chilling things is the lack of condemnation from Islamic nations.

Not one.

Sam said...

Maybe this will finally get the Euros to wake up about nuclear Iran. Because the fact is, millions of these lunatics want to blow up israel, whether they say it out loud or not.

David Thomson said...

One of the greatest threats to Israel, on a practical level, is the liberal knee jerking of so many Jewish-Americans (and other decent people). Their hearts might be in the right place, but their heads are screwed up. Things are not perfect in the Republican Party, but the Democrats are totally out to lunch. The foreign policy attitudes of the latter are almost exclusively premised upon the weird notions of Edward Said that the Palestinians are primarily victims of an oppressive Western capitalist society. Going down this road invariably threatens the very existence of Israel. Should one expect American Jews who normally vote Democrat to massively move over into the Republican Party? Well, We should minimally expect them to strongly advocate a more neo-con foreign policy within their own party structure. Why isn't this being done?

Pastorius said...

Israel has called for an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council. I wonder if action will be taken quickly.

Does anyone think sanctions could work?

Knucklehead said...


The UNSC taking action (or what passes for action) on behalf of Israel against a middle eastern nation would be, ummm..., unprecedented wouldn't it?

No, sanctions won't work.

The UN might be brazen enough to try them however. They have this little shortfall in revenue now that St. Saddam is gone. No doubt they'd like to replace it with something similar since they already know how to manage such a program.

Knucklehead said...


Apparently the MSM and the Intranational Left (yes, OK, that's redundant) take the Beantown Baseball approach. This is just a case of Manny Being Manny. No point worrying about what effect it might have on anything.

truepeers said...

OK, I'm always trying to read the symbolism. And I read this latest from Iran as also an attack on liberal America. You probably know that the Middle East imports much of its antisemitism, as with much else, and is now full of the old European conspiracy theories. And you know that Hitler often talked of a Jewish-Masonic conspiracy and that this rhetoric is repeated in the ME today. And you may know that the creator of Star Trek - that font of spirituality for the present generation of American "blue castle" liberals - Gene Roddenberry was a Freemason and that Star Trek uses various Masonic symbols.

Well, go now and look at this photo of the theme art for the "World Without Zionism" conference:
see here
Note how the center or lower half of the Star of David has been transformed into a Star Trek insignia? Or is it just a fortuitous result of an artist painting on a sphere? Am I crazy to imagine that they are now also declaring war on Trekkies (as a kind of Zionist?), along with the Masons, Rotarians, and associated phenomena?

Knucklehead said...


Am I crazy to imagine that they are now also declaring war on Trekkies (as a kind of Zionist?), along with the Masons, Rotarians, and associated phenomena?

You're not wrong (crazy is another matter), you just have a woefully incomplete list. They are declaring war on everyone who is not them.

Even if they were ever able to wipe Israel off the face of the map and obliterate each and every Jew they would just "moveon" and declare their next target to be Zionists.

terrye said...

When will people realize that these guys mean what they say?

I bet that if someone told Jimmy Carter a bunch of Iranian religious fanatics are going to capture the American Ebassy in Tehran and hold its staff hostage for over a year...he would have said that was silly. Why would they do they a thing like that.

Because they are Iranian religious fanatics. If they get their people killed that is ok fine with them.

MeaninglessHotAir said...


I don't think there's anything that will wake the Euros up. Other than PeterUK, of course: he's been awake the whole time.

Peter UK said...

Why not take the "Law and Order" option,A man is in the street waving his arms about and threatening to kill his wife,what do the Police do?
A man is in the street waving a gun about and threatening to kill his wife,what do the police do.
There does not seem to be any difference in the case if Iran.
Actually,though one would like to think otherwise the police would probably shoot the poor bastard in both cases,but I hope you get my gist.

ambisinistral said...

Even by Iran's standards, such belligerency is hard to fathom. It is isolating them badly -- even Russia and China aren't inclined to go to the wall to protect them.

This smacks of something primarily aimed at internal consumption to me.

The Iran/Irag border is porous in both directions. Could the Iraqi elections have been the catalyst for the mullahs to feel the need to raise the rhetoric level and control the dialog inside of Iran?

citizen_us said...

"I'm gonna kill you!" Nah, they didn't mean it.
"No, really, I am gonna kill you!" Nope, they still don't mean it.
"We are NOT screwing around here, we really have real hatred for you, we wish you would die, and we will do whatever we can to make that happen." It's all just talk, they really are just mis-guided. They wouldn't dare. Islam is the religion of

citizen_us said...

The entire friggin planet can talk about Islam until they are blue in the face, it will not change a thing.

Whilst we all talk it to death, they are killing and planning and plotting and building nukes.

They tell us about it. And still we talk.

Islam tells us to our face they are working towards our destruction.

The U.N. probably gives them aid to accomplish it.

Too much talk, not enough action.
It is all good and well to be the "kinder, more compassionate West."

When the mushroom clouds blossom from the BS, I guess the pictures will be cool.............