The full quote, from Chris Matthews: "If he [Bush] gambled on creating a democracy in the Arab Middle East and he does it, he belongs on Mt Rushmore."
This in the context of a conversation in which howard Fineman said the NSA thing was no big deal, but the Iraqi elections are.
We live in interesting times.
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Chris Matthews: Well, he's right. A clock stopped. Twice. In one day.
Zell Miller must be nearby, with his dueling pistoles.
Chris is really so appalled that someone (Bush) would take a chance like this.
But when he ponders the (possible) result of Bush's policies, he does find it inspirational, exhilerating, and breathtaking.
Then Matthews usually falls back into the 'It will never wokr' camp.
But, indeed, there are moments of wide-eyed wonder.
Syl, it could be just gas.
Amazing. I still think he's a stupid hack and I hope MSNBC goes out of business and takes him with them.
He actually SAID that?
It isn't such an insane gamble as it seems, considering the American record. We have delivered Democracy to,
1) Ourselves
2) to the American South,
3) to Japan
4) Germany
5) the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.
Pretty good track record revealing the truth of the fundamental Western notion that all men are endowed with certain inalienable rights, among these life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
All human beings are created in the Image of God. Therefore, we are created to be free, reasonable, and creative. When we are given a chance to be so, we naturally respond.
Some will choose evil and bondage, but most will choose freedom.
That's the way it is.
Of course, it seems magical to a person who has no faith, such as Chris Matthews.
But, let me be clear, while it is not magical, it is wondrous, and it is beautiful to behold, and it does bring tears to one's eyes, doesn't it?
Pastorius, good chills, lovely words and the things they mean. Yes, tears. The times they really are a-changing. It dawned on me today, it has been seven generations since the Civil War.
Better toss in the Phillipines and a number of central American countries from time to time. Panama all the time. Liberia sometimes.
...and almost all freedom movements in the last two centuries that even without anything from America pulled it together drawing some degree of moral power from the crazy radical thing the Founders pulled off.
As long as we're throwing these things in, add most all of Europe; after the Treaty of Vienna, people thought for a while that monarchy was the natural thing, but after the American Revolution and the French Revolution, it never stuck.
Well the plan originally was to find the WMD, decapitate the Baathist leadership and plant someone like Chalabi atop the government and go home wasn't it? By July 2003 we were gonna have maybe 50,000 troops left in Iraq according to Rummy. Most would be home by the 4th of July. Iraq's oil revenues were going to pay for it's reconstruction according to Wolfowitz. The head of USAID told Ted Koppel the total cost to the US taxpayer for reconstruction like activites would be about $1.7 billion.
When Al Sistani put hundreds of thousands of people in the streets demanding free elections Bremer proposed the hairbrained caucus scheme. Sistani threatened a general uprising and Bush begged the UN to send the Arab who helped Afghanistanis organize their elections. That's how they got the system they have today.
George Bush didn't gamble on creating democracy in the Arab Middle East, he was pushed into it. As usual Chris Matthews doesn't know what he's talking about.
Good cherry picking, mark, I see you're down to snuff as usual. And, hey, *THANKS* for pushing the prez into democratizing the mideast--he wouldn't've done it without you, you're right, your support made the difference, and you get all the credit!
Don't thank me Buddy, thank Al Sistani the Iranian born cleric. BTW he's not as conservative as some would think. He believes anal sex between consenting married partners is ok. In his eyes marriages can be as short as an hour as long as the woman is properly compensated. Not sure what his views on abortion or gay marriage are. But maybe you can find it. He has his own website in English.
http://www.sistani.org/html/eng/
BTW I forget, what's the HTML tag for making a clickable link?
Thanks for the pertinent info on Sistani.
use space then < then a then space then h then r then e then f then = then " then url then " then > then title then < then / then a then > then space
Well the plan originally was to find the WMD, decapitate the Baathist leadership and plant someone like Chalabi atop the government and go home wasn't it?
Nope. Next?
Mark --- the tag is an "anchor": Tag text.
Have a look at this cheat sheet, or check out the excellent w3schools tutorial site.
Dammit. Stupid blogger.
<a href="http://hostname/path">tag text</a>
There has just been an historic democratic election in an Arab country,a first in a former totalitarian Middle East state.....and all Mark Garrity can think about is sodomy....really does shine a light on the priorities of the liberal mind.
Good grief people. Why are you bending over backwards to help this clown? I mean he's been banned from more blogs than I've ever even read. And he doesn't know how to make a clickable link yet?
ha--"bending over backwards" for Mark on his Arab buggery report...chuckles, Syl.
"Why are you bending over backwards"
Because Syl,it is obviously safer then bending forewards.
three things in his favor
1) no need to view DNC site for latest GWB smear, it comes to you here--so, 'convenience'.
2) I forgot what #2 was gonna be
3) sets up really funny Peter UK posts
Go Tell it on the Mountain http://americanthinker.com/comments.php?comments_id=3950
Got you another plug for this wonderful blogsite and, in particular, this article.
Syl you only read one blog? I've only been banned from one and that's Roger Simon's. What are you afraid of anyway? That I'll post clickable links that disturb your view of things? To quote the President I say let freedom rain.
Good grief people. Why are you bending over backwards to help this clown?
'Cause we're better than he is, and he's amusing practice for if we ever get one of the well-paid trolls.
"That I'll post clickable links that disturb your view of things?"
Mark Garrity really does think he is doing missionary work here,how did you get into this missionary position Mark?
..and Mark you are telling porkies again..you were banned from DtP.
Just came back to mention Dennis but ya beat me to it Petey, forgot all about him. Shame on me. LOL.
Mark Garrity, Your Probation Officer probably believes you, but I don't
Petey frankly what you believe is irrelevant. Like there are no Sunnis in Iraq who might be willing to work with secularists. That's just stupid.
Mark,
Why bother replying then...just a small point,you are on the wrong thread..you need to cut back on the bong.
Peter-"why reply, then?"--ar har har--
Clarice--I'm going to look--been meaning to read that site--(I'm so glad Anthony Hopkins didn't hurt you, BTW)
Mark, "reign", not "rain".
so this is where missing Belmont Clubbers have been hiding.That Matthews is oblivious to the Bush gamble on democracy shows he's really clueless.Maybe if he shutup once in a while.
Trangbang68--yes, but a new and very able generation is growing up under Wretchard's tutelege--and needs room to open up.
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